I can not really see the problem here: One Clip envelope for the X axis and one Clip Envelope for the Y axis. That's two Clip Envelopes to control the position in the surround field. They could add a vector field to the Envelope Editor like in Absynth's Surround Envelopes, to make editing the two envelopes easier.dr_dohh wrote:i mean, how are you supposed to do that with the current clip envelopes? I mean, i love the clip envelopes, but to incorporate a whole set of panning shifts, it'll be more difficult to use (i assume), and will defeat the purpose of live.
LIVE 7: please include 5.1 surround :)
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dr.wackler
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subbasshead
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Personally I'd prefer 3 envelopes rather than two
as it would be more intuitive when it comes to
programming or editing ie:
1. the front pan envelope (becomes LCR instead of LR)
2. an envelope for Front <-> Rear
3. a rear pan envelope for Surr L <-> Surr R
(FWIW ProTools carries 5.1 automation this way)
Having watched film mixers work a lot I notice they often dont use a joystick
panner, but perform the pans using multiple pan knobs as per above....
It of course depends on the content & context, as there are definitely times
when flying a sound around the room with a joystick is easiest AND most fun!

as it would be more intuitive when it comes to
programming or editing ie:
1. the front pan envelope (becomes LCR instead of LR)
2. an envelope for Front <-> Rear
3. a rear pan envelope for Surr L <-> Surr R
(FWIW ProTools carries 5.1 automation this way)
Having watched film mixers work a lot I notice they often dont use a joystick
panner, but perform the pans using multiple pan knobs as per above....
It of course depends on the content & context, as there are definitely times
when flying a sound around the room with a joystick is easiest AND most fun!

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Meef Chaloin
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