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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:14 pm
by subterFUSE
DeadlyKungFu wrote:hambone1 wrote:WTF? Pluto isn't a planet?
What about Uranus?
Pluto is too small to be a planet.
Uranus is HUGE.
They also claimed that the orbit, which actually brings Pluto inside of that of Neptune, renders the planet classification incorrect.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:17 pm
by subterFUSE
Meef Chaloin wrote:subterFUSE wrote:There was a TV special last year on the JFK Assassination... maybe on Discovery? Can't remember exactly.
They used modern forensic science and physics to prove that the "magic bullet" theory was, in fact, correct.
They showed that the magic bullet did not zig-zag, but actually went straight. Previous analysis of the sitting positions for Kennedy and Connelly was incorrect.
oh you come up with the best responses
It was pretty interesting. They also used advanced video analysis on the Zapruder film. Analysis which could not have been done in the 1960s during the Warren Commission investigation.
A Discovery Channel special Unsolved History: JFK - Beyond the Magic Bullet atempted to replicate, as well as possible, the conditions of that day. The participants set up blocks of ballistics gel with a substance similar to human bone inside. These studies showed that largely undeformed bullets were possible to produce, if they were slowed by a passage though a tissue-like substance before striking bone. Next, two mannequin figures made of ballistic anatomical substances (animal skin, gelatin, and interior bone-like cast) were set up in the exact relative position of JFK and Connally. A marksman, from a distance equal to that of the sixth floor of the book depository building, fired the same rifle model found in the Book Depository, using a round from the same batch of the same "Western Case Cartridge Company" 6.5x52 mm ammunition purchased with the surplus Carcano weapon in early 1963 (and three expended brass from which was found with the weapon, in the book depository Nov. 22, 1963). The path of their single bullet (followed by high speed photography) duplicated, almost exactly, the wounds suffered by the victims that day, the only difference being that the bullet did not quite have enough energy to penetrate the "thigh" substance in front of the Connally figure, due to striking an extra bone in the "rib" model (i.e., it fractured 2 ribs in the model vs. one rib in Connally).
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:24 pm
by DeadlyKungFu
subterFUSE wrote:DeadlyKungFu wrote:hambone1 wrote:WTF? Pluto isn't a planet?
What about Uranus?
Pluto is too small to be a planet.
Uranus is HUGE.
They also claimed that the orbit, which actually brings Pluto inside of that of Neptune, renders the planet classification incorrect.
Does your name have anything to do with the FUSE project? I have a friend in Pasadena working on that.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:26 pm
by subterFUSE
DeadlyKungFu wrote:subterFUSE wrote:DeadlyKungFu wrote:
Pluto is too small to be a planet.
Uranus is HUGE.
They also claimed that the orbit, which actually brings Pluto inside of that of Neptune, renders the planet classification incorrect.
Does your name have anything to do with the FUSE project? I have a friend in Pasadena working on that.
Nope. I live in Florida.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:29 pm
by DeadlyKungFu
subterFUSE wrote:DeadlyKungFu wrote:subterFUSE wrote:
They also claimed that the orbit, which actually brings Pluto inside of that of Neptune, renders the planet classification incorrect.
Does your name have anything to do with the FUSE project? I have a friend in Pasadena working on that.
Nope. I live in Florida.
It's a space thing, thought there might be a group in Florida where they launch the things.
Lemme see, are you animal mineral or vegetable?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:51 pm
by Nod
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:34 pm
by The Phat Conductor
yea, i saw that too and have been fact checking a lot of what was mentioned. no holes so far, but i'm still not sure what to make of it.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:52 pm
by muscleandhate
Whilst I'm suspicious of buying into the conspiracy theories completely, I certainly don't buy the official explanations of what happned on September the 11th. Considering how much the US Government has profited from it across the board, the motive at least is obvious. As for JFK, I think it was clear that he was a political assassination.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:51 am
by Meef Chaloin
subterFUSE wrote:Meef Chaloin wrote:subterFUSE wrote:There was a TV special last year on the JFK Assassination... maybe on Discovery? Can't remember exactly.
They used modern forensic science and physics to prove that the "magic bullet" theory was, in fact, correct.
They showed that the magic bullet did not zig-zag, but actually went straight. Previous analysis of the sitting positions for Kennedy and Connelly was incorrect.
oh you come up with the best responses
It was pretty interesting. They also used advanced video analysis on the Zapruder film. Analysis which could not have been done in the 1960s during the Warren Commission investigation.
A Discovery Channel special Unsolved History: JFK - Beyond the Magic Bullet atempted to replicate, as well as possible, the conditions of that day. The participants set up blocks of ballistics gel with a substance similar to human bone inside. These studies showed that largely undeformed bullets were possible to produce, if they were slowed by a passage though a tissue-like substance before striking bone. Next, two mannequin figures made of ballistic anatomical substances (animal skin, gelatin, and interior bone-like cast) were set up in the exact relative position of JFK and Connally. A marksman, from a distance equal to that of the sixth floor of the book depository building, fired the same rifle model found in the Book Depository, using a round from the same batch of the same "Western Case Cartridge Company" 6.5x52 mm ammunition purchased with the surplus Carcano weapon in early 1963 (and three expended brass from which was found with the weapon, in the book depository Nov. 22, 1963). The path of their single bullet (followed by high speed photography) duplicated, almost exactly, the wounds suffered by the victims that day, the only difference being that the bullet did not quite have enough energy to penetrate the "thigh" substance in front of the Connally figure, due to striking an extra bone in the "rib" model (i.e., it fractured 2 ribs in the model vs. one rib in Connally).
but he got shot in the front right side of his head.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:02 am
by meatfestival
Here's an excellent site from a guy who meticulously reconstructed the scene of the JFK assassination in CGI, based on photos and film footage.
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/intro.htm
As for 9-11, any of those crackpot theories can be picked apart in 15 seconds by someone with a bit of common sense.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:44 pm
by lesterdiamond
I still think that the claim of national security is used for doing whatever they see fit. It was used during the whole JFK thing, there is still information about the assasination that hasn't been released to the public yet.
