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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:24 am
by Amaury
Hi,

Our plugin developers are in contact with the Zebra guys, but it seems that there are more conditions to get the wrong behaviour as even the set sent to us don't show it on our machine. Sure enough they will find out what's going on together, bue it may take a little longer.

Kind regards,
Amaury

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:25 am
by BubbleMoon
Hiya Amaury, thanks for the update.

the problem is not limited to Zebra i think. I haven't tested many plugins (stopped using Live because if this.. ) but also Ohmforce plugins have a similar problem. Dragging clips screws up the automation or sometimes crash Live. I did report both these problems to the plugin developers, who in turn pointed at Live.

According to both developers, if i remember correctly, the problem seems to be with parameters in AUs that take negative values? Therefore I assume if other plugins present parameters that has bipolar values (range from -x to +x), they too will exhibit problematic behaviour.

I understand it is difficult for you to take this problem serious since it does not happen on your machines. But several independent users here has reported it, and we can reproduce it within seconds, it is indeed a showstopper for us. It has been 4 months since this was reported.

Maybe the reason this does not happen with so many other plugins, is that the +/- parameter perhaps is above the 128 parameter limit. So this problem only happens in plugins with a bipolar parameter in the first 128?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:29 pm
by Kage
having the same issue too.. hopefully you guys can fix it soon as zebra is an amazing synth and I just can't use anything but live for making music now ;)

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:43 pm
by tomz.biz
yea i have numerous plugs which display this automation bug. can't wait for a fix!

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:02 pm
by BubbleMoon
just wanted to point out the bug is not fixed in 6.0.5 :)

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:19 pm
by tomz.biz
yep, confirmed that 6.05 or 6.06b1 do not resolve this issue.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:23 pm
by earthlinger
BubbleMoon wrote:just wanted to point out the bug is not fixed in 6.0.5 :)
+1

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:10 am
by Kage
Any word on this issue?
This and the Virus TI issues with ableton are really holding me back..

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:17 am
by Kage
Any word on this issue yet?
<---Refuses to go to Logic! :)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:04 pm
by Tarekith
Help, info please!

Is it just ironic that the only two synths I own are the TI and Zebra2?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:14 pm
by Henrik Hahn
Hi,

yes i can confirm the problem here. We are currently working on a fix, but unfortunately i cannot say, when it will be solved.

So until this is beeing fixed i suggest to use the VST versions, if available.

Sorry for the inconveniences.

best regards

Henrik

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:28 pm
by Tarekith
Thanks for the update Henrik!

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:31 pm
by Razzkazz
this is probably really obvious workaround. when i have this problem occuring when using trilogy i create a midi track below the trilogy one, then when using alt to copy i copy first onto the new track (no instruments assigned to it) then place it from there to wherever its needed on the trilogy track. :)

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:50 pm
by Tarekith
Any news on this Henrik?

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:51 am
by anti-banausic
Man is this annoying, with Automat as well. Really limiting, I agree whole-heartedly.