DMT sounds pretty sounds like a trip!

D DAS · Post by **D DAS** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:11 pm

intersting idea about using k with d, but i think that defeats the purpose of the experience by 100% and would be way to the fuck out there, no thanks. part of the deconditioning process is the learning to let go part. to numb that with some k would defeat the whole lesson. plus it is hard enough already to bring anything out of the dmtworld. that would be a synergy for the boldest of psychonaughts.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:14 pm

ketamine is a mucky drug, and I havent remembered any of my previous experiences - but i certainly saw the aftermath! broken washing machine, broken clothes horse, broken light switches....ha, theres no way I'd mix it with DMT. man, you're a no more than a junkie if you need to mix dmt & K for kicks.

why not add a bottle of vodka and a couple of pills to the mix, and some cocaine for good measure. with a bit of opium. and speed.

you're rrrreally flying then boyo

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:39 pm

D DAS wrote:intersting idea about using k with d, but i think that defeats the purpose of the experience by 100% and would be way to the fuck out there, no thanks. part of the deconditioning process is the learning to let go part. to numb that with some k would defeat the whole lesson. plus it is hard enough already to bring anything out of the dmtworld. that would be a synergy for the boldest of psychonaughts.

Intersting indeed. I have not had the fullon trip with D, so I don't have much frame of reference, and I haven't done K. I am definitely intersted in the D though. I have tried Salvia a few times, not strong doses, and that is some wierd stuff for sure! I found it pretty useful. I watched over my best friend, and fellow psychonaut, as he took a very strong dose, and I have never seen him react that way to anything ever....total panic attack sent him cowering into his closet, totally out of it until I reminded him he had smoked Salvia...the he snapped right back into reality. Crazy.

Macriada · Post by **Macriada** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:53 pm

Just quoting my mate here:

"DMT is like being in five nightclubs at once"

Sounds worth a punt.

Anyone hear about the guy who pioneered K research. He used it IM all day long and beleived he could communicate with dolphins and reprogram the human mind! Now that's some far out shit.

KU · Post by KU » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:03 pm

the orange waxy...

I tried it once at a loft party in manhattan. Three of us took it in a bong and it seems that I got the lions share at end because they didn't feel much, but I felt like I was in the great glass elevator up to the spaceship. next thing I knew I was howling and ended up biting a chunk out of my friends shoulder (which I thought was my own placenta) when they tried to hold me down...

and was not a noob to large doses of entheogens.

I suppose it was the wrong setting, but I was so exited to try it because I had never come across is before.

psilopsyche · Post by **psilopsyche** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:06 am

My second to last 10X Salvia experience was one of the most difficult experiences of my life. I have a lot of respect for that plant. If you ever want to find DMT, follow Shpongle, Hallucinogen, or OTT on tour: www.twisted.co.uk . I believe that the appropriate way to spoke DMT is with a methamphetamine type glass pipe. I believe that it should be vaporized, not burnt.

My last experience with Salvia was interesting because I was able to consciously breakdown and analyze the physics of the Salvinorin A through the experience. The psychedelic experience is driven by a repetitive noise which induces a trance. The noise pulses, and throbbs. It you take a look at a painting by Alex Grey called BardoBeing you will get a good idea of how the experience is. Salvia causes you to zone-out and pay attention to the geometries around you, it sucks you in and dissipates direction (up, down, lef, right, in, out, here, there). Lines extend and connect to others, patterns flow like water from the bottom up in a clockwise rotation, like a river of psychedelia. It places windows everywhere, and can suck you into objects via taking you out of your body. Be careful to do it in nature... experiencing an eternal life as concrete is one of the most horrible things i've experienced.

Favorite = psilocybin (3.5+ grams)

illsub1 · Post by **illsub1** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:44 am

Anyone interested in DMT should check out Dr. Richard Strassman's book "DMT the Spirit Molecule". Its really great. I have done Salvia a couple times but it can be pretty uncomfortable to be stuck between dimensions without any control. I much prefer rebirthing or transformational breathing. It is signifigantly WAY MORE POWERFUL than any drug can ever be. It was my brekthrough to Atman and a huge emotional clearing. To be able to get to those states without any help from substances is friggin awesome. I really didn't think it was possible, but when I saw the music and truly became one with god I can't tell you how much my life changed. I can't really even think dualistically at all anymore. Check it........

http://www.rebirthingbreathwork.com/

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:02 am

tat tvam asi

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:04 am

Back in high school I had a bad cold during soccer season, kept me sidelined for a few games, fuck that. So I went to the store and got the strongest cough medicine I could find and downed it before the game, all macho-like. At this point in my life I was stone cold sober my entire life, and I just downed a nice dose of DMT without knowing it.

I was playing defense and couldn't even focus on the ball, it just bounced off my feet, and into my own goal, twice. I drove home really slow with my girlfriend following me, we had to stop again and again. I passed out at her place, totally confused.

Flash forward to college, I downed the same shit with a friend, half a dozen other people did shrooms. I guess they put stuff in there to make you sick if you drink too much, we kept it down a while, puked after a few hours to get the nasty stuff out and tripped for a few hours.

Weird shit, made me feel like a lizard. Damn robos.

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:04 am

and i think you meant brahman.

edit ---> ooops, this one is @ illsub.

.lm.

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:06 am

uhhhhhm, tone? you know thats not what we're talking about, right? That's DXM.

.lm.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:11 am

shit... dextromethorphine or something like that is the cough syrup shit, right? DMT? checking it out on erowid.com. Definitely different stuff.

learn something new every day. damn story just gets more embarrassing.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:26 am

Aural Chaos wrote:Salvia Divinorum isn't a drug, it isn't even really an herb, it's an interdimensional transportation key disguised as a plant!

DMT is pretty amazing stuff, but I can never seem to remember all the wierd ass shit I see once I come back down.The Salvia experience sticks with me for much longer...

Salvia was horrible - and in fact reading this thread - listening to the first link and reading a bit of that erowid is really making me realise that I'm done with all of it

I'm even getting pretty sick of weed

I wrote a big post on my saliva experience on this forum once - it was fully like the blue pill on the matrix - I really thought the guy who gave it to me had let me in on some sinister interdimensional secret that we were the slaves of these big tall aliens and it wasnt fun at all

I wont do that again and DMT sounds a bit too similar for me to think I want to try it

illsub1 · Post by **illsub1** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:48 am

atman
One entry found for atman.
Main Entry: at·man
Pronunciation: 'ät-m&n, -"män
Function: noun
Usage: often capitalized
Etymology: Sanskrit Atman, literally, breath, soul; akin to Old English [AE]thm breath
1 Hinduism : the innermost essence of each individual
2 Hinduism : the supreme universal self : BRAHMA 2

We both right.........

Seriously you aren't gonna get to your true being with any substance but it is great to peek on in and see that its possible!

illsub1 · Post by **illsub1** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:06 am

Veganism, conspiracies, and consciousness oh my. I feel that Ableton Live has opened us up for some serious expansion. I think the Abes may be deeper than we think.......

http://www.kirchersociety.org/blog/?p=300

The top of the device looks a lot like Live ?!?!?!?!?