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b0unce wrote:so the guys an asshole - in principle he still deserves a cut.

the world is full of assholes, and show-business of all industries probably has most of them.

junkies, drunks, thieves, perverts, rapists, murderers...ex-convicts

you might like to take a persons moral inclination into account or their criminal record, but you cant really apply it to a copyright case.

BINGO!

Trouble is, there is no copyright issue. He didn't use Knievel's footage - he just re-created something a lot like something Knievel once did. You can't copyright a concept.

O yeah, it helps to RTFA...

OK, so it's trademark infringement. Very different from copyright. With that. he might just be screwed, although it's a pretty grey area IMO. Knievel is gonna have a hard time proving any substantial loss or damages, but Kanye would have been much safer had he not intentionally misspelled his (Knievel's) name & stuck it up on the screen.

when did everyone become so pedantic ?
copyright trademark - its all the same for the sake of my argument, my point was just because he's an asshole doesnt mean he has no rights in this case.

carry on,

It's obviously a parody though. I don't think Knievel has a leg to stand on and this is just a desperate grasp for publicity. I just find it interesting that people hate Kanye so much now that they'll defend a thieving wife-beating loser like Knievel over a creative rights issue like this. If it were anybody else but Kanye you'd all be defending his right to parody.

its not like it was a skit on a comedy sketch show

it was the full length video for a major-release single, getting ridiculous airplay all across the globe. It totally and un-deniably ripped off knievels trademark...not even vaguely, but quite specifically. I seen some footage of the original stunt coincidentally - and kanye ripped it off big time.

sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you dont. bastard or not, knievel is a player in showbusiness, he went to alot of trouble to create his trademark, and pull off the stunts and make the videos......ffs give him his dues. maybe his kids/grandkids will inherit the money or something.

I doubt anyone's trying to bankrupt kanye, knievel just wants a piece of the action. and why not ? oh ya...he's a prick.

and someone should crucify kanye and get it over with....and ps, is it just me - or does every single one of his verses sound the same ?

die kanye dieeeee!