My two cents on bullshit live acts / In depth video footage

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:02 pm

bencodec wrote: It's the performer that is missing out by not playing live. they have a chance to be versitile and surprising, to express themselves immediately in the heat of the moment rather then be trapped inside the live set they prepared months ago in the studio.

So true. And the excitement the performer feels from actually performing (hopefully) translates into excitement the audience feels, which in turn excites the performer....and the feedback loop is created!

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:22 pm

bencodec wrote:can i play devils advocate and say that what we are doing ISN'T different then what a DJ does. we take sounds wo like, we combine them together to make something greater then the sum of it's parts.

Yes, cosm starts off his presentation using clips that, it might be said, may be from just about anywhere and triggering them (arguably within the realm of what a DJ does). But then he progresses thru his demostration to where he is triggering various sections of clips on the fly (which is arguably what a skilled turntablist *might* be able to do), and then finally does some looping of on-the-spot improvised synth riffs (you would have hard time arguing that is within the realm of what a DJ does).

And so he successfully demonstrates 'How what he does is different from what a DJ does' as he says at the start: thus making the world ever more aware of, and thus safer and more eager for, live computer-based electronic music.

I think what Live lets you do is move up from the 'pure re-use of existing music' to that actual improvisational music level, where you can still be providing good sounding music as you grow. It's more a feeling of accomplishment when you extend yourself to improvise, yeh, even though most people will not care too much.

SubQ · Post by **SubQ** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:45 pm

Respect, Cosm!
I'm passing to the live stage, after two years producing, cutting loops and sampling, building my library from scratch with pernambuco's local percussion styles, studio sessions and whatnot.
As a musician, I intend to do plenty of live looping onstage - maybe not so electronic, my mood is somehow more (i hate to use this word) organic: lots of acoustic and electric instruments, etc. Something between dubs and ol' school funk

That said, I was wondering: maybe you could take benefit from another controller, say a faderfox with crossfader, or the new rotary, or maybe the cheap and nice bcr. it would give you even more control, hands off mouse, that kinda thing.

But who am I to say something... you're already a pro and I'm starting this shit

I dug your sound, congrats again.
best from brasil
coelho

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:30 pm

This guy should be one of the featured artists on the site, like Shawn Pelton and Kid Beyond.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:09 pm

good video for beginners to get into it, well done!

well worth spreading the word.

and nice damn funky breaks in the end

cheers
SF

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:09 pm

bencodec wrote:can i play devils advocate and say that what we are doing ISN'T different then what a DJ does. we take sounds wo like, we combine them together to make something greater then the sum of it's parts.

Except that those sounds/riffs/loops are composed by ourselves - maybe even composed there, on stage, in real time. There is a definite difference there.

-M

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:15 pm

bencodec wrote:can i play devils advocate and say that what we are doing ISN'T different then what a DJ does. we take sounds wo like, we combine them together to make something greater then the sum of it's parts.

True - in concept -. but then so is writing with a pen, or cooking dinner, or masonry, carpentry, sex. etc.

In fact, djing is to fast food what deep improv is to a gourmet meal. Easy.

jesso · Post by **jesso** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:42 pm

thanks tom,
Excellant stuff!!!
really enjoying em.

solar28 · Post by **solar28** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:10 pm

Thanks so much for this. I can't tell you how valuable this sort of knowledge is for Live.

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:10 pm

nice work Tom.

D K · Post by **D K** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:34 am

great work,
the whole "what is live" debate is a whole other can of worms,
but i think your music is great.

robbmasters · Post by **robbmasters** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:06 am

Really enjoyed that. Makes me want to get out and play...

ciw · Post by **ciw** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:46 am

Hey dude,

I really appreciate your attempt to educate the masses as to what a live performer does. Good luck with the advocacy

Contra · Post by **Contra** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:30 am

very dope video, glad to see some fellow padkontrollians out in the zee-land.

whats the name of the track at the end during the mmontage?
very dope trak.

keep doin ya thing. pz.

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:45 am

My two cents on bullshit live acts / In depth video footage

you rock tom!