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Post by Seyser Koze » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:25 pm

can I put in a word for the Samson R5As.

I love the ribbon tweeters, and for the price i think they kick.

They did when sound on sounds monitor test too recently in that price range, even beating some in the price range up.

tasty little monkeys with great sounding top end as well as bass clarity

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:46 pm

my set up, which I really enjoy.
easy translation of mixes to other systems.

event TR-8n, (375USD)
KRK rocket10 sub( 199USD)
$ top self xlr cables for hookup (100USD)

get or build good quality, shielded cables.
this steps makes a big difference.

good luck.


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Post by blueprint » Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:56 pm

krk rp8's.

i got the pair for 400 new.. i love Guitar Center. Have worked amazingly well.

BX8's were my other choice and they were actually cheaper because they had more left over but they carried too much bass for monitors.

with krk's if they sound good on them, they'll sound good on just about everything whereas the bx8's will make some crap mastering sound relatively good.

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Post by snakedogman » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:15 pm

I used to have Spirit Absolute 2's, not very good but all I could afford at the time :)
A while ago I bought a pair of Vifa Impuls speakers which is DIY speaker kit, ie you buy the components and build it yourself (I bought them second hand though so didn't have to build them myself) and they are really nice. They are good as hifi speakers but a lot of people recommend them for monitoring as well. They are passive speakers so I use them with a Rotel amp I got when I bought the Abolute 2's (really nice amp btw). The speakers cost me 300 euro's.
I use Genelec's at work and I'd say those are a bit more revealing but not as nice to listen to. Since I use my speakers as monitors as well as just music listening the Vifa's are perfect for me.
I think the general impression of DIY speakers like this is that you get more bang for your buck (not paying for brandnames like Mackie/Genelec) so if you're not afraid of building yourself (or getting them second hand) I'd say it's definitely worth checkin out. (ScanSpeak reference monitors are another custom build model that I always hear great things about but they are a bit more expensive than the Vifa's, about 1000 euro's for a pair)

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Post by ayahuasca » Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:44 am

hiya, query regarding the genelecs:

if one goes for the 8030a's plus the sub, then the freq response goes down to 29khz...but alone they are a bit light (59hz)

as for the 8040's genelec rates them to 48hz.

mackie rates the 824's to 39hz.

in the states on can get 2 mackies for about $50 more than 1 genelec 8040.
$1050 for a pair of mackie's. $1100 for one 8040a.

I agree that the genelec's are sweet, but pricey eh esp if one want serious bass thus perhaps the 8050 (to 58hz) is a more straight on comparison to the mackie 824 in terms of frequency range only.

am I missing something here?

(I think the original poster was looking for something in the $1200 range...a pair.)
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Post by Novel » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:16 pm

For me it has come down to these options, priced @ Sweetwater:


JBL LSR4328P $1400 pair

ADAM A7 $1000 pair

Dynaudio BM5A $1000 pair

Yamaha HS50M $400 pair

Samson Rubicon 5A $350 pair

Event ALP-5 $330 pair


I'll probably get a sub to go with. From what I've seen on the net, all of these seem to get good reviews all around. I'm not sure if the price jump from Samson Rubicon 5A to ADAM A7 is really worth it.

It's a tough call but damn I want to get some monitors quickly and get on with the music-making.

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Post by punkdISCO » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:36 pm

ayahuasca wrote:$1050 for a pair of mackie's. $1100 for one 8040a.
This is strange. Here in Europe, the single unit costs are:

Mackie 824 = 511euro ($664)
Genelec 8040 = 680euro ($884)
(from www.thomann.de)

So, a bit of a difference but not double.

Anyway, these are both in my top list at the moment. I need to see the 8040s in the flesh as they look like $100 computer speakers in all pictures I have seen of them. I know this should not matter, but within reason – if they look awful, you don’t want to be looking at them for the next 10 years.

Obviously will also do as much listening as possible within the confines of a shop (Turnkey!)

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Post by CR78 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:30 am

Sold my Genelec 1030's and got the ADAM A-7's.

Have had them for just about six weeks and really like them. Very honest-no hype.

Some reviewers feel the bass is lacking/slightly sluggish. Compared to the 1030s they might be a tad less punchy but still sound tight I sure don't miss the fatigue from the 1030's. Two to three hours on the ADAMS and I'm fine. Genelecs got to me after about an hour.

Using them in a 10' x 15' home studio.

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Re: monitors

Post by pepezabala » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:47 am

Ken Ken wrote: ...but i was wondering whether or not my new active monitors in my music chamber will do just as good job for both my production and to run my decks, mixer through etc....?
I would keep the hifi and get additional monitors. It's nice to have the possibility to compare a mix that you made on your monitors with the sound it does on the hifi-system.

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Re: monitors

Post by punkdISCO » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:57 am

pepezabala wrote:I would keep the hifi and get additional monitors. It's nice to have the possibility to compare a mix that you made on your monitors with the sound it does on the hifi-system.
I recently got some Avantone MixCubes. Single, full range drivers, designed to sound shite (like a HiFi). Avantones are in lots of studios as they give an excallant reference to see what a mix will sound like on a hifi, car stereo, iPod etc. Only cost £130 so very cheap..
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Post by punkdISCO » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:13 am

CR78 wrote:..I sure don't miss the fatigue from the 1030's. Two to three hours on the ADAMS and I'm fine. Genelecs got to me after about an hour.
I keep reading comments Genelecs sounding aggressive and causing fatigue. Even the SoS Review by Paul White is rather critical of the Genelec sound.

I think its time for me to start pop along to some music stores..
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Post by zebastian21 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:24 pm

punkdISCO wrote:
CR78 wrote:..I sure don't miss the fatigue from the 1030's. Two to three hours on the ADAMS and I'm fine. Genelecs got to me after about an hour.
I keep reading comments Genelecs sounding aggressive and causing fatigue. Even the SoS Review by Paul White is rather critical of the Genelec sound.

I think its time for me to start pop along to some music stores..
it should be mentined that Genelec 8000 series are much improved over older models. they still have that Genelec sound but not as harsh as old versions. IMHO after testing many monitors I could say the Genelecs have the greatest stereo image of all, you have to hear it to believe it, others monitors next to it(Dynaudio, Mackie, Krk...et) sound real dull compared to the Genelec.
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Re: monitors

Post by mike holiday » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:49 pm

pepezabala wrote:
Ken Ken wrote: ...but i was wondering whether or not my new active monitors in my music chamber will do just as good job for both my production and to run my decks, mixer through etc....?
I would keep the hifi and get additional monitors. It's nice to have the possibility to compare a mix that you made on your monitors with the sound it does on the hifi-system.
yes, good idea!
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Post by GeoffShoulders » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:46 pm

Anyone got any views on the Samson Resolv 65A? I've seen a pair at a decent price & need to get rid of my poor little JBL Control 1's!

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