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Hertz SM wrote:I mean, for the price of Guru, you can have FL Studio which still shows its roots as a drum machine. Focusing on beat making, FLS is not only intuitive and quick. It's also very flexible and has some tricky tools which Guru will never have.

Proper beatslicing? Included
Multisample drums? Included (Akai MPC clone called FPC)
Stepsequencer with per step shift, vol, pan & stuff? Included
Groove template creation? Included

+ many more

Forget FLS' as a Cubase wannabe. But try its drumming capabilities.

Dude, you have piqued my interest.

I checked out Phatmatik yesterday. Looks cool, but seemed kinda...klunky? I don't know, maybe I just need to get used to it.

Beyond rewire, how does FL integrate with Live (5)?

I think I heard somewhere that FL can run as a VSTi in any host, true?

Can I run multiple FL devices at the same time as VST in Live?

I think I will have to try the demo of this over the weekend, as well as get deeper into Phatmatik.

What about Guru (haven't tried yet) vs. Phatmatik? How do they stack up?


Thanks guys,

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STRATEGY_510 wrote:

artgillespie wrote:iDrum VSTi for Windows is due very soon.

Are you sure?

How soon might very soon be?

The price is right for this puppy too..


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Come on dude, give me a clue.

If it's soon soon, I will hold out for it. If not I will buy something else and probably never get it.


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Phatmatik is kind of old, and I don't think it is supported any more either... so it is in an almost awesome place, but I guess it ended up kind of abandoned.

GURU all the way, too many reasons to list, but believe me it's better than the rest. Let's just say, pattern firing, scene firing, eight engines, and solid VST/AU integration to start.

Machinesworking wrote:GURU all the way, too many reasons to list, but believe me it's better than the rest. Let's just say, pattern firing, scene firing, eight engines, and solid VST/AU integration to start.

Thanks..

$259! Yikes, that's more than I paid for Live 5!

oh hell, if it's that much better than Phatmatic I guess it's worth the extra $100.

I will be trying this out over the weekend as well.


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I'm using idrum with Live 5 and it's gold. The program uses .wav and .aiff samples so if you know anyone using an MPC, just ask to borrow some of their drum cd's and your rollin.

I'm not sure if it will be available for PC's but I picked it up for $65 Can.

STRATEGY_510 wrote:

Machinesworking wrote:GURU all the way, too many reasons to list, but believe me it's better than the rest. Let's just say, pattern firing, scene firing, eight engines, and solid VST/AU integration to start.

Thanks..

$259! Yikes, that's more than I paid for Live 5!

oh hell, if it's that much better than Phatmatic I guess it's worth the extra $100.

I will be trying this out over the weekend as well.


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(guru) it isn´t cheap, but it is one of the few really worthy it.

gaspode wrote:Phatmatik is kind of old, and I don't think it is supported any more either... so it is in an almost awesome place, but I guess it ended up kind of abandoned.

are you refering to phatmatik or phatmatik pro? phatmatik pro got sold to izotope and is still fully supported.

I just got Battery 3. It has some amazing kits.