Ableton Forum

mathew wrote:lol at derrick may being a dick. i've got a to spend a minute with him twice now and the dude was so respectfull and polite, and get this, thankfull of the people he was playing for. maybe you just had a bad experience. or maybe you just believe what you read.

richie is cool as fuck too, and has been pushing it forward for longer than most of you have been listening to his shit. seriously, what were you doing in 1990? 1988?

word to this as well. Derrick has his opinions, and in my experience (and believe me I have had an experience) it is nothing personal - he's just down for making shit bigger for U.S. and Detroit artists and he's uber critical of the U.S. Dance scene. The man has points and I respect that.

When he played my club Compression last year, he was a total gentleman, nice, unassuming, and pleasant to be around. You know what? Actually, cool as fuck. I can't wait to eventually have him back.

Every time I've met richie (twice) I think he's been totally the same. He knows what he means to the EDM scene and he's not an egoist about it like some mofo's I've met who are not half as impactful as Richie has been.

Can you imagine where we'd all be without Detroit? Holy shit.



rob.

robtronik wrote:As you get older, you realize compromise is an inherent part of life and to make it to the extent he has w/o too much compromise is a difficult thing to accomplish by any stretch.

Indeed!

Say what you will about Derrick but without him & the rest of the crew there would have been no +8 to begin with. This might be hard for some to realize who were not there but if you ask Rich himself he will give DM his prop's.

Rich is probably one of the most important figures in the game. He has been able to get people interested in this music who otherwise would not have given it a second look. He also is not afraid to move forward in his philosophy and technics. This in my opinion is what sets him apart. His fans can be a bit fanatical at times but hey - respect is due to the man. I find it strange no one ever mentions his collaborations with Dan Bell (as Cybersonik). This seems to be the turning point for Rich as Dan was actually the guy who had developed this style before anyone else in Detroit or Berlin. But he seldom gets credit for it.

If your actually interested in the art and craft of the process you might want to search out some old releases by DBX and Rich and check the dates on the releases. Also check out early Rob Hood as these folk were all pretty close at that period in time. Sharing ideas and theories.

Truth be told artist never have these kinds of rants about who's the most important - its normally some person on a message board that kicks these things off. But hey - its a free world and people can say what they like thats the beauty of it I guess...

Richies work as plastikman is by far & away the best work anyone has ever released under the moniker 'plastikman'.

Dolly Parton's Tits wrote:Richies work as plastikman is by far & away the best work anyone has ever released under the moniker 'plastikman'.

I just wanna say I've been a fan all my life and I think your both awesome. Richie i'm not so sure about.

I forgot to mention I had the pleasure of working with Rich back in the early 90's on a track (titled "UP") at his old studio in Canada. No one should ever doubt the man has technical skill. There are a lot of DJs / Producers today who don't even produce their own material but Rich is 1000% a do it yourself kind of guy and I really admire that about him.

Theres no modern day trickery going on - if his name is on it then hes the one who pulled it off. I really can't give the guy enough credit for his dedication to the music and pushing things forward.

ok im done ranting for a few more months now...

did you give him some mancuddles and a big wet mankiss ? *said the left tit
i bet he got aquiantaiteded with his volume knob *said the right tit

nobody is doubting Richies dedication, but you can still be free to like or not like his music.

personally, i prefer his dj'ing. some of his music is very very basic... which is fine because thats what his angle is, but like i said, people have the right to make up their own minds.

Good man Claude, well said!!
Hawtin deserves everything he gets!

mathew wrote:seriously, what were you doing in 1990? 1988?

listening to richie rich play at the shelter on saturday nights!

im too young to understand his music...i like his dj sets tho

claudeyoung wrote:If your actually interested in the art and craft of the process you might want to search out some old releases by DBX and Rich and check the dates on the releases. Also check out early Rob Hood as these folk were all pretty close at that period in time. Sharing ideas and theories.

the "brother from another planet" records on 7th city are great also!