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nah, it's very easy mousing around, plus i have the monitor there too you can see.

vinyl rules. i will never give it up.

go back buying vinyl!!! it`s an order!

You know Frank Sinatra?
He's dead. Dead! Ah hahaha.

8 track is dead.
Betamax is dead.
Laser disc is dead.


Why won't this thread die?

It's dead for you if you spin super gay happy crappy hardcore trance. Then you can just use virtual dj and press auto mix. You can also get a cliche dj name beggning with paul followed by your last name. Just stand behind your computer and wave your hand around, everyone will love it. But if you really wanna scratch, juggle, mix, use effects, and really control the music you can use vinyl, alongside of other equipment.


In Kazekstan we say a man who does not use vinyl is like a man with no hram. -Borat..

All the best tracks still come on vinyl (as has been pointed out). That says to me that vinyl is far from dead.

(sales aren't exactly big though, pressing runs of 300 aren't uncommon now).

zordon wrote:In Kazekstan we say a man who does not use vinyl is like a man with no hram. -Borat...

Good God! If Borat ever said that I would sample the shit out of it!!!

(Then scratch the fuck out of it using my mixvibes VINYL!!!)


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Didn't they predict that there was only going to be enough oil/kerosine to make records till around 2009?

Or was that a marketing ploy to get Dj's sign up for iraq?

My grandpappy still plays records, and he's 90!

hambone1 wrote:My grandpappy still plays records, and he's 90!

My grandpappy listens to music on his laptop. Your point?

My point is that despite modernization and advancement, there will always be those who have a nostalgic hankering for the past.

hambone1 wrote:My point is that despite modernization and advancement, there will always be those who have a nostalgic hankering for the past.

Vinyl is still current technology. As I say, most releases are vinyl only still.

However, I DJ digitally and do prefer that for the artistic flexibility it gives me. There is a lot to be desired with most digitally distributed music. Sound quality is quite often below par. For that reason I still prefer to record vinyl and use that.

I do both... vinyls and Live... two different complementary ways of having fun...I like the feel of vinyls and the simplicity of the setup...I like the flexibility of Live to put everything together... choosing one or the other is impossible...

What I've been doing is buying lots of vinyl and capturing the records into Ableton. It's extra work, for sure, but it's kinda fun. I record the vinyl in at 96kHz- it sounds nearly as good as the wax, but nothing beats the sound of a record, IMO.

So then I take the tracks and make Ableton DJ mixes. The best of both worlds, digging through bins and digitally mixing. I love the activity of searching for records. You have to go outdoors into the world. You have to go to record stores. You actually have to interact with human beings. You have to look at physical objects and try to decern if something is worth listening to. This activity is seriously becoming extinct, which is totally fucking scary to me. For most of my life this very activity has been one of my greatest passions. Future generations will not experience it or understand it.

To add to the demise, the prices for new vinyl just jumped up dramtically in New York City. For the longest time one of the cool things about buying a new release on vinyl was that it was a few dollars cheaper than buying the CD. Not anymore, in NYC anyhow. Suddenly, overnight, the price for new records has jumped to a few dollars more than the CD. This means that:

A) Buying vinyl is now "trendy" here

B) The stores that actually sell physical copies of music are in a seriously morbid financial state

All scary shit. The fad of buying wax will burn out and the stores will go out of business.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tiny industry that still manufactures records can die. When the cost to produce a 12" runs the retail price up to $25 or more, it seems like our precious medium will die.

So now I go record shopping at least once a week and always come home with something. I fear the worst.



LONG LIVE SLABS OF PETROLEUM BY-PRODUCT!

digital is very flexible but its still 1's and 0's at the end of the day. Vinyl will be here when the magnetic pole shift erases everything else. Then your precious digital will be dead. Mark my words. Isn't it kind of amazing that so much timeless music comes from the golden age of analog and so much throwaway stuff is coming out today? Coincidence? I don't think so! The intimacy of sound waves undiluted by A/D conversion is a splendid thing. I agree that much of this sound can be acheived using supersonic sample rates (with nothing to play it back on), but I'd rather have a living breathing piece of art than a throwaway mp3. The pendulum will swing back when people start waking up!

I will never stop digging and getting my fingers dusty!!