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Rogue Scrunt wrote:I have an axiom 49, that is pretty weak.

what's wrong with the axiom? lots of people like them. just curious.

the axiom is ok.


One of my sliders broke on the way home from the store.

Just a cheap build quality.


Akai pads are better that m-audio pads. no question.

Rogue Scrunt wrote:
akai/alesis/numark = middle of the road these days.

not high end like akai pro used to be.

I agree about Akai is roughly in the same category as Alesis... Some outstanding stuff (MPCs, Andromeda A6), but mostly amateur grade stuff.

Numark on the other hand... I don't thnk that Numark even holds a candle to the other two. Numark makes shit, sub-par even compared to M-Audio. I can't stress enough how shitty Numark is in everything they produce.

m-audio seems to be regarded highly as making fairly well produced gear....Anyways, I chose the axiom, and am gonna have to stick with it. nothing more.

akai needs to stop puttin out so many midi controllers, and update the OS's to their so called "flagship" the MPC. (at least the newer ones, if we wanna act like an mpc 3000 is obsolete-for all the wack producers at least)

akai has horrible customer support, and just puttin out more products, that theyre gonna replace with some newer "upgrade" to it.

theyre pissin me off.

Rogue Scrunt wrote:
I was hoping for a midi controller with 49 pads, or something original

I was hoping for 127 pads

Full size padboard is what I want. Like a mattress of pads.

Oh well, another boring MIDI product...

tribewalker wrote:m-audio seems to be regarded highly as making fairly well produced gear....

blah, m audio is cheap stuff.


you fell for the marketing.

the axiom is the best m-audio product i ever owned, and i'm still not impressed.

I have an M-audio Axiom 25 and it is ok, certainly not worse than any other Korg, Edirol or other plastic midi keyboard.
Numark makes good stuff too...i have got 2 TTX Turntables and they are really good...the fact is that, in terms of building quality (not sound) everything today is worse than 1 years ago....before there was metal, now there is plastic...
I have got an Alesis Micron, and it is the best synth you can buy for 300-400 euros....
my 2 cents and a quarter and a cigarette butt....

M. Bréqs wrote:

Rogue Scrunt wrote:
akai/alesis/numark = middle of the road these days.

not high end like akai pro used to be.

I agree about Akai is roughly in the same category as Alesis... Some outstanding stuff (MPCs, Andromeda A6), but mostly amateur grade stuff.

Numark on the other hand... I don't thnk that Numark even holds a candle to the other two. Numark makes shit, sub-par even compared to M-Audio. I can't stress enough how shitty Numark is in everything they produce.

I think he lumped them altogether because they are all owned by 'numark'...numark dragged them down quality-wise, but probably saved Alesis & Akai Pro from disappearing altogether - so we can thank them for that I suppose.

husker wrote:

M. Bréqs wrote:

Rogue Scrunt wrote:
akai/alesis/numark = middle of the road these days.

not high end like akai pro used to be.

I agree about Akai is roughly in the same category as Alesis... Some outstanding stuff (MPCs, Andromeda A6), but mostly amateur grade stuff.

Numark on the other hand... I don't thnk that Numark even holds a candle to the other two. Numark makes shit, sub-par even compared to M-Audio. I can't stress enough how shitty Numark is in everything they produce.

I think he lumped them altogether because they are all owned by 'numark'...numark dragged them down quality-wise, but probably saved Alesis & Akai Pro from disappearing altogether - so we can thank them for that I suppose.

Wow. I didn't know they had acquired Akai as well. I guess you learn something every day.

I have a ttx also and think it is great. better that a technics.



To numark's credit, I have had good luck with them and warranty work in the past.

top notch service.

I've owned a PPD-9000 (sucked, I could hear the digital stepping on both the filters and the crossfader's volume, and I had a pair of inputs die within two months) and two TTX-1s. The TTX's drive system is pretty solid, but the carriage of the tonearm is loose and wobbly on each one (and came from the store, sealed in boxes loose and wobbly. I returned them to the store for exchange and got two new ones exactly the same; it's just designed that way they said).

Hoooooly shit that thing looks sick!

i like it, neat looking unit and considering i'm in the market for one at the moment I'll keep this in mind depending on the price of course

When I saw the pic cursed myself for buying recently new Edirol.
Tried the Akai today - piece of shit- pads are nice but the keys are cheap, similar to evolution and it is build and looks like a toy
So Edirol stays as the best controller available today.