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dango
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Post by dango » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:20 pm

kiwipicker wrote:as former GP worker, I can say this about the Apple campaign:

the rating system was based more on documentation than Apple's company action. With that being said, Apple has been known to charge a fee if you were to take products to them to be recycled, and as a symbolic Market leader, GP essentially uses their name as a tool for attention to the industry problems. Obviously, Macintoshes are produced in much smaller numbers than pc countreparts internationally, hence the stats are a bit of an illusion.

GP is not evil, though, and as an orginaztion it has done some cool things to challenge the big boys with all the money..
from article wrote:However, Greenpeace charges that both manufacturers are also "part of a coalition that has been opposing producer responsibility and lobbying for U.S. consumers to pay an Advanced Recycling Fee (ARF)."
Greenpeace has had a bone to pick with Apple for some time. Last year Greenpeace demonstrators were kicked out of MacExpo. Two months later, Greenpeace released a scathing report detailing Apple as the worst environmentally friendly PC manufacturer in the world.

so it seems they are lobbying for this recycling tax to be put on us as well.

lame,

but still, apple rocks, the damage has been done, the earth was trashed on our watch, might as well enjoy our creations until we one day can't anymore.
that day might be soon, or later, but it will one day come. all flows, nothing lasts.

so when does that new apple phone come out anyway?

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Post by freqn » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:19 pm

Macs still rock, no matter what greenpeace claims. I wonder if greenpeace's claims are hinged on the amount of donatations from Bill Gates foundation. Money does do most of the talking and slamming these days.

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Post by RobertX » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:37 pm

kiwipicker wrote:what are you basing your comments on?
This is one reason.

1977: Nuclear power is awful.
2007: We were wrong. Nevermind.

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Post by kiwipicker » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:52 pm

no...He was wrong; based on your source.

GP still disavows nuclear energy. Partly because they feel that there is a lot of potential energy to be had through solar and wind tecnology which dont carry the same potential for destruction and pollution that nuclear energy has.
To be honest, I am not really defending GP on all of their issues, but as an organization I think they still have a lot to offer in terms of challenging and educating people on complicated issues throught the use of attention grabbing headlines.
lets be honest, attacking apple gets you talked about on tv, in magazines and in forums. and for a non-profit orgonization attention is essential.But I absolutely do not believe in misrepresenting or distoring information for the sake of attention. The truth is a powerful enough weapon if used effectively
GP has always tried to make dramatic statements or actions to call attention to itself, this is nothing new.
but instead of brand loyalty, maybe some of you need to wake up a little bit and not assume all is rosy at Apple just because they make pretty computers

(and i actually love mac computers and own one)

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