why is there so many soft synths?

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:35 am

Johnisfaster wrote:oh dude I figured it out. nathannn actually liked all the demo's he tried but can't afford them so he decided to get angry about it instead

just playin nathannn

cough cough, you surely cant be referring to this completely different poster?

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35559

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:46 am

Angstrom wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:oh dude I figured it out. nathannn actually liked all the demo's he tried but can't afford them so he decided to get angry about it instead

just playin nathannn
cough cough, you surely cant be referring to this completely different poster?

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35559

or this one
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 204#443204

Xytar is slowly adjusting to earth living.

PDX · Post by **PDX** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:52 am

saying there are too many soft synths out there is like saying there are too many hammers. i mean, carpenters should all just use the same hammer right? they all do the same thing right? so someone should tell all the different hammer manufacturers out there that they have over saturated the market and they should make something else besides hammers.

shit, while we are at it, there are too many models of cars too, and microwaves, and toilet paper. we should all just have one of everything and there should be no choices for anyone.

/sarcasm

i have found that the ease of use of most of the software i use makes people lazy and therefore there are a lot of producers who do in fact sound similar. but i have also found that if the person using the tool, no matter which tool, knows how to use the tool, they can produce something pretty amazing and original, be it a song, a synth patch, or a set of cabinets.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:57 am

PDX wrote:saying there are too many soft synths out there is like saying there are too many hammers. i mean, carpenters should all just use the same hammer right? they all do the same thing right? so someone should tell all the different hammer manufacturers out there that they have over saturated the market and they should make something else besides hammers.

shit, while we are at it, there are too many models of cars too, and microwaves, and toilet paper. we should all just have one of everything and there should be no choices for anyone.

/sarcasm

i have found that the ease of use of most of the software i use makes people lazy and therefore there are a lot of producers who do in fact sound similar. but i have also found that if the person using the tool, no matter which tool, knows how to use the tool, they can produce something pretty amazing and original, be it a song, a synth patch, or a set of cabinets.

HERE HERE!

steve-o · Post by **steve-o** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:27 am

I'm really feeling Massive. In every track.

I use the shit out of my Puremagnetik subcription (best $60 I ever spent). I guess that's not a soft synth though...

Korg MonoPoly tickles my fancy!

If you haven't tried symptohm:mehloman than you can't really say all soft synths sound the same.

ABL2 - I've lovin' it! (Timberlake wrote that jingle btw)

Alphakanal Automat gets lots of quality time.

I'm probably going to get zebra two too.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:50 am

any absynth 4 users wanna tell us how great & unique it is ?
(a softsynth I happen to be eyeballing...)

the_viirus · Post by **the_viirus** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:57 am

you know....its not what softsynth you use...its how you process it.

i dont need a 6 oscillator subtractive synth when can just triple track different tunings of dahornet and achieve something as convincing.

it is all how you process your sound.
putting buzzer, automat, or dahornet through camelcrusher or frohmage can dramatically change the character of your synth.

steve-o · Post by **steve-o** » Thu May 10, 2007 5:00 am

b0unce wrote:any absynth 4 users wanna tell us how great & unique it is ?
(a softsynth I happen to be eyeballing...)

Personally, I've never dug it, but I also didn't dig the MD (pre-UW), so if that's any indication, maybe you'll love it!

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Thu May 10, 2007 5:07 am

ok let me clear this up for ya
i know what "tweaking the filters" will do. also i dont use presets. in most of the music i make i usually scan through wave forms while recording a synth just because i get bored with the same sound.
but this to gets dull sounding because at the end it just sounds like a synth scaning through wave forms with filtering.
what johnisfaster had to say about hearing a sound and saying "that sounds like a synth" and then saying "there is no new sounds" is where i am at..
everything sounds the same to me..
i dont know if i need a break from music or synths.
when ever i get to this point i end up deleting every synth and just using reason. in fact this is what i will most likely do.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Thu May 10, 2007 5:15 am

I don't know about there being waaay too many synths but there's definitely waaay to many asian and black people on the west coast - that's for sure

(doh)

wait, there's too many White guys dating Asain girls in Seattle

or is it too many black guys dating white girls

no no no

It's, there's to many black guys dating FAT white girls in Seattle <---> it's a ugly fact brothers need to fess up to and stop the madness before someone get's there feelings hurt...

steve-o · Post by **steve-o** » Thu May 10, 2007 5:42 am

djadonis206 wrote:I don't know about there being waaay too many synths but there's definitely waaay to many asian and black people on the west coast - that's for sure

(doh)

wait, there's too many White guys dating Asain girls in Seattle

or is it too many black guys dating white girls

no no no

It's, there's to many black guys dating FAT white girls in Seattle <---> it's a ugly fact brothers need to fess up to and stop the madness before someone get's there feelings hurt...

That is one of the funniest posts I've ever read! Nice Adonis!

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:07 am

Soft synths are poo!

Mr Man · Post by **Mr Man** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:14 am

Would be good to have dedicated controllers bundled with the software... Zebra 2 = 4 x joystick with a few pots!

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:47 am

nathannn wrote:ok let me clear this up for ya
i know what "tweaking the filters" will do. also i dont use presets. in most of the music i make i usually scan through wave forms while recording a synth just because i get bored with the same sound.
but this to gets dull sounding because at the end it just sounds like a synth scaning through wave forms with filtering.
what johnisfaster had to say about hearing a sound and saying "that sounds like a synth" and then saying "there is no new sounds" is where i am at..
everything sounds the same to me..
i dont know if i need a break from music or synths.
when ever i get to this point i end up deleting every synth and just using reason. in fact this is what i will most likely do.

Synths like Zebra (where you can draw 16 different waveforms and then morph thru them to create a single oscillator) or Sytrus (where you can import any single-cycle waveform and if you use say Galbanum's waveforms, there's an easy 2500+ to choose from) are far from limited and far far from sounding like the everyday saw/square/sine synth.

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Thu May 10, 2007 12:29 pm

nebulae wrote:
nathannn wrote:ok let me clear this up for ya
i know what "tweaking the filters" will do. also i dont use presets. in most of the music i make i usually scan through wave forms while recording a synth just because i get bored with the same sound.
but this to gets dull sounding because at the end it just sounds like a synth scaning through wave forms with filtering.
what johnisfaster had to say about hearing a sound and saying "that sounds like a synth" and then saying "there is no new sounds" is where i am at..
everything sounds the same to me..
i dont know if i need a break from music or synths.
when ever i get to this point i end up deleting every synth and just using reason. in fact this is what i will most likely do.
Synths like Zebra (where you can draw 16 different waveforms and then morph thru them to create a single oscillator) or Sytrus (where you can import any single-cycle waveform and if you use say Galbanum's waveforms, there's an easy 2500+ to choose from) are far from limited and far far from sounding like the everyday saw/square/sine synth.

whats the diference between importing wave forms or drawing them into a synth, from just using a sampler?