Stuff to do to the Amen break?

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:47 pm

The amen break sample was awesome when I first heard it nearly ten years ago. Not so much now. Overused like nothing else.

pux · Post by **pux** » Tue May 29, 2007 11:25 pm

and again I say,......listen to that video.

abletonian · Post by **abletonian** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:55 pm

Rogue Scrunt wrote:best thin to do to the amen break....

leave it alone.

it is like the really hot girl at a club night,

that you see go home with a different set of dudes every weekend.

seriously,

there are thousands of other breaks to cut up.

jackpot!

Dominik · Post by **Dominik** » Wed May 30, 2007 7:19 pm

i think the amen break is cult.
it can teach you a bunch of knowledge, if you are interested in drums or percussive music.
after a while of studying and when you feel more comfortable , go and replace the samples.

laird · Post by **laird** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:21 pm

Add it to some Blade Runner samples.

Idiron · Post by **Idiron** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:05 pm

the amen break is still legit if you use it subtley, like using various hits in conjunction to others. theres no need to take that standard loop and just lazily mash it. experiment.

piZMo · Post by **piZMo** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:49 pm

the AMEN break is one of the most sampled and important breaks of the last 10-12 years in dance music, and is found not just in D&B, but all breakbeat music genres. It is a good break to learn to cut up and use because it will allow you to understand how it is used and how to use other breaks to good effect. BUT seriously you should learn how to program breaks yourself, if you want crystal sound, and if you want to feel like YOU wrote YOUR music. Sampling is bullshit and for people who can't write original music. Unless you are multi sampling an instrument or original sound (not someone elses) of course which is a different matter. Why can't you do your own sound design? Why is everyone so obsessed with getting things quickly without putting in the hard graft first these days. If you want cool breaks make your own don't use Teds or Billies. Sorry for the rant. Be original.

Lord Khan: seriously have you listened to drum&bass recently, the good stuff, no one is using this break anymore.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:06 pm

glu wrote:
onslaught wrote: People don't stop using certain guitars or drum kits just because they've been used many times before.
but people generally don't use the same 5 second guitar sample in every other song in one particular genre of music.

so what about the techno scene?
all that rave?
trance?

4 to the floor ftl.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:08 pm

piZMo wrote:the AMEN break is one of the most sampled and important breaks of the last 10-12 years in dance music, and is found not just in D&B, but all breakbeat music genres. It is a good break to learn to cut up and use because it will allow you to understand how it is used and how to use other breaks to good effect. BUT seriously you should learn how to program breaks yourself, if you want crystal sound, and if you want to feel like YOU wrote YOUR music. Sampling is bullshit and for people who can't write original music. Unless you are multi sampling an instrument or original sound (not someone elses) of course which is a different matter. Why can't you do your own sound design? Why is everyone so obsessed with getting things quickly without putting in the hard graft first these days. If you want cool breaks make your own don't use Teds or Billies. Sorry for the rant. Be original.

Lord Khan: seriously have you listened to drum&bass recently, the good stuff, no one is using this break anymore.

wtf your bitching about now?
sampling are for artists who cant write their own music?

you just shit on the whole mashup scene, grats.

edit: not to mentio a big load of the mainstream scene aswell (not that i care about that, but still).

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:10 pm

Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:The amen break sample was awesome when I first heard it nearly ten years ago. Not so much now. Overused like nothing else.

venetian snares mate.
enough said.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:19 pm

glu wrote:
onslaught wrote: People don't stop using certain guitars or drum kits just because they've been used many times before.
but people generally don't use the same 5 second guitar sample in every other song in one particular genre of music.

then again, how often do you use usual chord progressions/hear usual chord progressions in a song?

exactly.

forge · Post by **forge** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:01 pm

fatrabbit wrote:Best tip is to not use the Amen break.

+1111

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:59 pm

friend_kami wrote:
Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:The amen break sample was awesome when I first heard it nearly ten years ago. Not so much now. Overused like nothing else.
venetian snares mate.
enough said.

I know. I listened to that album of his with all those hungarian names. The amen breaks really ruined the album for me. I was really hoping to hear some more original beats than the overused "fuck up an amen break in 180 bpm" thing. I'll admit that his amen cuts were some of the better ones I've heard though.

franknputer · Post by **franknputer** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:38 pm

Honestly, most of that sounds boring to me - slice & dice the same lo-fi syncopated drumbeat? Maybe that's why so much ____core music sounds the same to me. It's a good beat, but damn - sounds like most people don't even use the more interesting part of it.

Use something else, be original.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:42 pm

PITCH IT UP A BIT AND LOOP IT FOR 12 HOURS

It rocks!