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Johnisfaster wrote:please forget about the idm (like the term or not?) debate for a moment.

whats the deal with idm these days? I haven't heard anything exciting in the genre for freaking years. am I just not paying attention to the right artists or is there simply nothing going on anymore?

Well I think you need to check out this label...

http://www.kompakt-net.com/

All the artists on here that i have been listening to latley are FANTASTIC!!!!

Stephan Bodzin
Thomas Schumacher
Gui Borrato
Booka Shade
and lots more....

cosmosuave wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:please forget about the idm (like the term or not?) debate for a moment.

whats the deal with idm these days? I haven't heard anything exciting in the genre for freaking years. am I just not paying attention to the right artists or is there simply nothing going on anymore?

Well I think you need to check out this label...

http://www.kompakt-net.com/

All the artists on here that i have been listening to latley are FANTASTIC!!!!

Stephan Bodzin
Thomas Schumacher
Gui Borrato
Booka Shade
and lots more....

Oh hell yeah. I just picked up Gui Borrato's Chromophobia last week. Shame on me for leaving it off my list. And I love Stephan Bodzin. There are some great videos of him on YouTube. I think anybody using a Monome or Lemur fall into the category. You need a semblance of intelligence to use one.

Yeah that Chromophobia disc is the shit... I ftp'd it to Nebulae and he loved it... That disc is diverse musically it is a great listen..

Poster wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:it's an acronym, intelligent dance music. the debate is usually over the fact that the name is pretty big headed.

I always hate it when people ask me what music I do and then have to explain what it means..

But what I always understood is that the genre itself did not name it like that..

It was a journalist back in the early nineties that reviewed Warp's Artificial Intelligence release..

Since he could not put it into a genre he named it IDM because it was not really danceable, but it refered to dance music..
And it structures in general are not really 4/4,
so a for him that was a tad more intelligent (ridiculous I know)

I like to refer to electronics, but that's also a very wide definition..

isn't it always journalists that end up naming genres? seems to be what happened with punk and grunge too if I recall correctly

cosmosuave wrote:Stephan Bodzin
Thomas Schumacher
Gui Borrato
Booka Shade
and lots more....

how come most of those artists didn't even show up on the sites mp3 section?

I think peopple finally figured out that its all rubbish.

kabuki wrote:I think peopple finally figured out that its all rubbish.

just curious; what music are you into?

Johnisfaster wrote:

cosmosuave wrote:Stephan Bodzin
Thomas Schumacher
Gui Borrato
Booka Shade
and lots more....

how come most of those artists didn't even show up on the sites mp3 section?

Try here...

http://www.kompakt-mp3.net/

When you do the search use Artists on the drop down... Worked for me on Gui Boratto...

And Bodzin too... Check out the releases on LIEBE IST CD...

cosmosuave wrote:

Johnisfaster wrote:

cosmosuave wrote:Stephan Bodzin
Thomas Schumacher
Gui Borrato
Booka Shade
and lots more....

how come most of those artists didn't even show up on the sites mp3 section?

Try here...

http://www.kompakt-mp3.net/

When you do the search use Artists on the drop down... Worked for me on Gui Boratto...

And Bodzin too... Check out the releases on LIEBE IST CD...

Weird, thats exactly what I tried. that site, with the artist pull down menu...

cosmosuave wrote: Well I think you need to check out this label...

http://www.kompakt-net.com/

All the artists on here that i have been listening to latley are FANTASTIC!!!!

Stephan Bodzin
Thomas Schumacher
Gui Borrato
Booka Shade
and lots more....

well... sorry to say this, but i personally think that Kompakt is really boring label. if you compare Appendix Shuffle or Sutekh's music to Kompakt's music, you can say that those two guys make IDM. i can understand why people who love techno dig Kompakt, but believe me folks, there much more exciting labels out there (Shitkatapult, Karat, Bpitch....).

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All about BPitch, Shitkatapult. Modeselektor are probably my favorite. Their music has a bit of Richard D. James to it in places (the melodies, mainly), but they combine it with some more danceable, bangin' beats. I also love just about anything Apparat does. The Apparat & Ellen Allien album was/is fantastic IMO.

The only two things I really dig on Kompakt are The Field and Gui Boratto. Everything else is just a bit too minimal/stark for me. Their stuff just doesn't make my blood pump like Modeselektor.

As far as genre titles, I just call it electronic. A bit broad, but I just don't like the terms 'IDM' or even 'Techno' much.

Apparat and Monolake deserve to be mentioned here. IDM is just a label. You can have whoiesome discussions about what it means :p Like mentioned it's the "Intelligent" most people have problems with. I guess all IDM has breakbeats, clicks/glitches and synths. But there will always be expetions to the rule.

I've actually made a free downloadable album that some people consider to be "IDM" (yes, spam!). You can check it here:
http://www.archive.org/details/J7N033

Did i miss something here?
I always guessed that kompakt is a *true* techno Label, there were always exceptions (the orb, the ambient comps, some artist albums) but it sure is techno/house.
shitkatapult is plain crazy Beatmangling and Noise/distortion and bPitch is a Berlin thing thus pretty diverse...
Bodzin is so Techno (and i dont like the appearance of this guy, people around here keep on saying hes an arsehole. The music is pretty much Bremen like if you like this check: http://www.plantage13.com/) Schumacher too (and Elektrochemie LK is the shit!) and Booka Shadeis more or less minimal Pop
So this is all german Techno and no idm, isnt it?

What i pretend *intelligent* at the moment is maximal music, digitalism (and some of the other kitsunè stuff), Justice (Kicks ass!) and the other guys from ed Banger, Erol Alkan and some of the Great Stuff Records. This stuff brings Pop, distortion, good Arrangements and a nice attitude together for maximum hands - in - the - air effect.

303 likes it!

sparklepuff wrote:It's all about Philosophical Reggae Polka now.

word

smartass303 wrote:Did i miss something here?

So this is all german Techno and no idm, isnt it?

The thread evolved man.

Aphex Twin is pretty much the quintessential IDM artist, yeah? But the guy put out everything from acid to breakbeat to ambient.

Journos threw out the idm net in an effort to group or categorize all these disparate electronic artists, such as Aphex, Autechre, Squarepusher, etc. So in that sense, idm never really had a specific sound. They probably shared more of an ethos.

To me, a discussion of idm is just a discussion of sophisticated electronic music.