Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:37 pm
id say the lack of presets and proper midi implementation might be a turn offNewSc2 wrote:why don't you get an old sh-101?
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Roland v Moog (Am I deaf or mental)
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:39 pm
www.thomann.de have got their stuff i think. i've ordered from them before - they were good.brightonalex wrote:Is that the Studio Electronics thing? Because they don't seem to sell them in the UK.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:54 pm
Oh yes so they do!!!
That's caused me a new problem then!!!
That's caused me a new problem then!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:08 pm
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:31 pm
One thing to bear in mind is the fact that the Roland is smothered in processing (reverb/delay/saturation etc.) take all the additional effects off, then compare them.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:45 pm
I had another listen just now, I think I understand why I want an LP.
The Roland does offer insant gratification but there isn't that much too it beyond the presets. If I had one I'd end up only using it for basslines.
The pads do sound really nice, but trancey and dated and I can't see how I'd use them.
With the LP I'd be always discovering new sounds just by play with the knobs. Plus its smaller so it will take up less space, and I can tell my GF that because it is small it only cost around £100.
The Roland does offer insant gratification but there isn't that much too it beyond the presets. If I had one I'd end up only using it for basslines.
The pads do sound really nice, but trancey and dated and I can't see how I'd use them.
With the LP I'd be always discovering new sounds just by play with the knobs. Plus its smaller so it will take up less space, and I can tell my GF that because it is small it only cost around £100.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:04 pm
got nothing to do with the topic per se, but it's kind of related to the sh-101 - has anyone owned/used an mc-202? it's basically the same as a 101, right? i was thinking about getting one, one day, maybe, because the sequencer looks sweet (but CV only).
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:58 pm
Don"t want to hijack the thread but I have a question. Being an experimental composer who is recently become more interested in screwing with found sounds recorded with binaural mikes I have always been a bit confused over the whole vintage/true analogue synth versus digital synth/software synth thing. Yes I can tell the difference between the sound of a real analogue synth and a plugin when compared directly but when all of these sounds are combined in a mix I get a bit lost.Who can tell the difference between a 1970"s Mini Moog series A, B or C and a MiniMonster in a busy mix? Is there anyone who can?
I own a Roland Juno 60 and have recently (happily) reaquired a broken down Moog Prodigy (the first synth I ever owned when I was 15)... synths like these are great to play with as they have a great feel and yes they are inspirational for ideas, but they are both noisy when recording and the Prodigy literally drifts in and out of tune every five seconds or so. Correct the tuning, sit it in a mix, how many average listeners would be able to tell that it was a Prodigy and not a Subtractor synth from Reason. To tell you the truth i don"t think I will ever use the Prodigy in a track as using it just means too much work.
Sorry, being a bit of a devils advocate here, if I had the cash I would buy a whole bunch of new and vintage analogue synths, and spend many happy hours twiddling knobs...... but that is becasue I have GAS. My question is cheapo VST plugin or expensive hardware analogue, what is more useful?
I own a Roland Juno 60 and have recently (happily) reaquired a broken down Moog Prodigy (the first synth I ever owned when I was 15)... synths like these are great to play with as they have a great feel and yes they are inspirational for ideas, but they are both noisy when recording and the Prodigy literally drifts in and out of tune every five seconds or so. Correct the tuning, sit it in a mix, how many average listeners would be able to tell that it was a Prodigy and not a Subtractor synth from Reason. To tell you the truth i don"t think I will ever use the Prodigy in a track as using it just means too much work.
Sorry, being a bit of a devils advocate here, if I had the cash I would buy a whole bunch of new and vintage analogue synths, and spend many happy hours twiddling knobs...... but that is becasue I have GAS. My question is cheapo VST plugin or expensive hardware analogue, what is more useful?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:45 pm
ebay the prodigy to some howlett ball-lickerLeft Eye Dominant wrote:Don"t want to hijack the thread but I have a question. Being an experimental composer who is recently become more interested in screwing with found sounds recorded with binaural mikes I have always been a bit confused over the whole vintage/true analogue synth versus digital synth/software synth thing. Yes I can tell the difference between the sound of a real analogue synth and a plugin when compared directly but when all of these sounds are combined in a mix I get a bit lost.Who can tell the difference between a 1970"s Mini Moog series A, B or C and a MiniMonster in a busy mix? Is there anyone who can?
I own a Roland Juno 60 and have recently (happily) reaquired a broken down Moog Prodigy (the first synth I ever owned when I was 15)... synths like these are great to play with as they have a great feel and yes they are inspirational for ideas, but they are both noisy when recording and the Prodigy literally drifts in and out of tune every five seconds or so. Correct the tuning, sit it in a mix, how many average listeners would be able to tell that it was a Prodigy and not a Subtractor synth from Reason. To tell you the truth i don"t think I will ever use the Prodigy in a track as using it just means too much work.
Sorry, being a bit of a devils advocate here, if I had the cash I would buy a whole bunch of new and vintage analogue synths, and spend many happy hours twiddling knobs...... but that is becasue I have GAS. My question is cheapo VST plugin or expensive hardware analogue, what is more useful?
get one good modern proper analog, an se1, LP etc - all the sound all of the vibe, none of the hassle, you will use it on every track you make
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:57 pm
Cheap real analog synth?
Waldorf Pulse baby. If you can afford a Moog Little Phatty, then you can afford an SH-201 AND a Waldorf Pulse off of ebay.
Waldorf Pulse baby. If you can afford a Moog Little Phatty, then you can afford an SH-201 AND a Waldorf Pulse off of ebay.