Live 7's Missing Features?

inmazevo · Post by **inmazevo** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:23 pm

Can 3rd party instruments play in rewire mode yet?

If not... well, that's just sad.
But the rest looks pretty good coming from version 5.

- zevo

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:23 pm

kabuki wrote:Missing also:

THE EDIT BUTTON... (as far as I can tell).

incorrect.

edit button is back

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:25 pm

deva wrote:
Kodama wrote:
Did Operator get anything at all?

Someone said Operator got a high quality mode... oversampling I guess so you get smoother highs if you want em

It's interpolated AND anti-aliased now - much improved sound - but can be turned off individually as well for grit. It also has a vastly improved pitch envelope (you can control the transpose of the release, which is key for drum sounds)

and it also has a new envelope loop mode: trigger - which basically does one-shot sounds, also essential for a lot of drum sounds.

And as I wrote earlier, the filter movements are smoother now, too.

Here's a really quick kick-sound made with the new, improved Operator

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:58 pm

freely assignable Modulation/Lfo secttion...

more knobs/buttons (or banks) macros in racks...

productivity improvements in Sampler..

undocking of ableton devices...

sysex pass-through midi ch...

savable view templates ...

tap - tempo modes...

the ability to organize your own automap banks for vsts...

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:00 am

3dot... wrote:productivity improvements in Sampler..

Sampler now defaults to a new Constant Power loop fade mode, which sounds awesome. And there's a bunch of new stuff in there too.. I can't even remember half of it.

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:20 am

Machinate wrote:
3dot... wrote:productivity improvements in Sampler..
Sampler now defaults to a new Constant Power loop fade mode, which sounds awesome. And there's a bunch of new stuff in there too.. I can't even remember half of it.

nice....

what else...? I understand a lot of improvements arent listed yet..

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:23 am

3dot... wrote:
Machinate wrote:
3dot... wrote:productivity improvements in Sampler..
Sampler now defaults to a new Constant Power loop fade mode, which sounds awesome. And there's a bunch of new stuff in there too.. I can't even remember half of it.
nice....

what else...? I understand a lot of improvements arent listed yet..

still in sampler:

LFO control over....Sample Select

and bezier-type curve control over each envelope step.
oh, and I believe it also goes up to 11 now.

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:30 am

Machinate wrote:
3dot... wrote:
Machinate wrote:Sampler now defaults to a new Constant Power loop fade mode, which sounds awesome. And there's a bunch of new stuff in there too.. I can't even remember half of it.
nice....

what else...? I understand a lot of improvements arent listed yet..
still in sampler:

LFO control over....Sample Select

and bezier-type curve control over each envelope step.
oh, and I believe it also goes up to 11 now.

huh?

I dig the bezier curve thing...but ehm..
whats goes up to eleven? whats sample select?

I want my beta ... Waaaahhhah

xxxmorphicxxx · Post by **xxxmorphicxxx** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:30 am

So far I'm very pleased with 7 beta, but I can't believe they didn't add crossfades.

Goran@Irrupt · Post by **Goran@Irrupt** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:33 am

i'll quote myself from the post one year old:

1) THE MOST IMPORTANT THING - (and i asked this for zillion times) i want to be able to select more samples at once. but only the samples, not the part of time in arrangement. i'm sure you all used selection tool at some point, know what i'm talking about? to be able to do "select and move" operation in my project i need to zoom in and out 100 times and still i'm not sure if some part of some file is not cut somewhere. I HATE THIS!

2) i hate the rule in Live that one sample is erasing another one if it's put on the top of it. i want to be able to hear both of them with the crossfade option for transition. cubase, logic, vegas users, are you with me?

3) speaking of crossfades, why can't we get quick hold & drag fade in/out options for every sample. it gets on my nerves when i have to click a couple of hundred times to do this with volume envelopes.

are those things changed/improved?
thanks.

w

posssu · Post by **posssu** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:35 am

Folding many tracks into one visual track to save space? No?

vanceg · Post by **vanceg** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:36 am

As long as it's 100% understood that I think the changes to the new version are all pretty darn great and this is a list of big wishes...I'll jump in and post here:

- Support for surround sound
- Support for comping/multiple takes in the Arrange window
- The ability to recall effect and instrument presets using MIDI PGM changes.

- SOME form of mixer "scenes" (so i can instantly switch between one complex mix and another...but keep the same clips playing).
- General speed and UI improvements in Arrange window.

- OSC support.
- Manually defining the MIDI assignments (without having to move a physical MIDI fader)
- Improved mapping of MIDI values to parameter values (define ranges, automatic midi not to frequency conversion etc)

Me - I don't need virtual instruments. But it seems lots of folks do so that's great that they are now there and getting better all the time.

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:52 am

I wish the external instrument and effect plugs could pull internally to route audio within Live ( I mean, you could do it with 3rd party audio routing software).

I wish there were curves on things like the gate release time, etc...

It would be cool if there were LFos, Envelopes, etc.. that could be routed to whatever.

condra · Post by **condra** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:35 am

I havent seen it mentioned anywhere yet, so I presume the right hand section in Arrange View is STILL the same colour as the main arrange section

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:37 am

Kodama wrote:I wish the external instrument and effect plugs could pull internally to route audio within Live ( I mean, you could do it with 3rd party audio routing software).
.

you can sort of route audio by using the 'monitor' function of compressor, that has it's own routing you see. You can suck audio in from around the app and into a rack chain.
It's a hack, and not the best , but it's what we have.