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LOFA - your descriptions have sold me!

LOFA wrote:I've been doing things for the last hour with Drum Rack and Slicer that simply make me feel like the ceiling has just been removed from my head... whatever that means!

Think modular. Think cut and paste. Think collapsing fractal spine of workflow architecture carrying it's momentum through your creative process.

Since I feel like embracing the dj/performer side of myself with live I am in heaven. I am yet to come to terms with a definitive performance method through all these new gadgets/doorways, but I am ripping wormholes through my old material!!!!!!

you utterly pretentious homosex

TITBAG wrote:you utterly pretentious homosex

Homosex you pretensiously utter.

LOFA wrote:

TITBAG wrote:you utterly pretentious homosex

Homosex you pretensiously utter.

ooh goody - are we doing Haikus?

LOFA wrote:Right now I feel like I can finally take these ideas I get and execute them with very little resistance. It's like I'm dancing through my workflow. Very complicated dance. But well strung-together, technical, and pulsing.

Hell yeah!

kind of like connecting to the stream of consciousness through which the eye of the universe saw itself upon the moment of its own creation?

nebulae wrote:

LOFA wrote: Somebody start a political post- I'm scared I'm going to disappear in a blur of productivity!

If the Iraqis had weapons of mass drum slicing, would we still have invaded?

I would have, but only for beats not for oiL, and there would have been no loss of life.
imagine: "give up the slicer Gerhard err umm hussain"

mike holiday wrote:

LOFA wrote:Right now I feel like I can finally take these ideas I get and execute them with very little resistance. It's like I'm dancing through my workflow. Very complicated dance. But well strung-together, technical, and pulsing.

Hell yeah!

kind of like connecting to the stream of consciousness through which the eye of the universe saw itself upon the moment of its own creation?

And on the 8th day the multi-armed Lord of all Creation tooketh out his cleaver, and began to slice the beats.

did you ever look at a dollar bill man? there's some freaky stuff going on in there man...

Tone Deft wrote:
did you ever look at a dollar bill man? there's some freaky stuff going on in there man...

Oh gosh... not the freemasons again... they make the fattest beats...

Seriously though:

When 5 came out things were great but there was limitations in midi and cpu power. Then 6 came out with dual processor support and all of this rack stuff and larger idea things became very doable in live (ie:effective, experimental, workflow assisting and commercial grade racks, etc). By then however I was using max to do things on top of macros for a more organic feel.

Now live is at a state where with simple grid-based-drumpad very deep ideas can be immediately executed. The thing is that these are still ideas that pertain to a very new, but still very "ableton" manner of execution. I was probably running my mouth like a stoned highschool student because it was a Friday night and it was easier to be excited rather than get to work restructuring my Cycling74/ableton setup to benefit from from all of this.

The easier answer is to stick to the plan, but there are some tools in Version 7 that I never thought about. They are the results of great engineering vision and I excited about considering where these can lead.

RE: Footbag

LOFA, you ever play with a guy named Corey Current? He's on a bunch of the youtube vids, has played in a lot of the international tournaments, championships, etc.

I've been trying to learn to play from him. We actually had a game scheduled today (but I lost my phone at the bar last night and must punish myself by not playing)

kramerica wrote:RE: Footbag

LOFA, you ever play with a guy named Corey Current? He's on a bunch of the youtube vids, has played in a lot of the international tournaments, championships, etc.

I've been trying to learn to play from him. We actually had a game scheduled today (but I lost my phone at the bar last night and must punish myself by not playing)

I'm not going to say that I never played with him, but I believe he is more of a Net player. I have friends back in NYC and Jersey that got heavily into net but I am strictly freestyle for now. I prefer to be competitive with myself rather than others. Well, this used to be the case until I discovered squash ... I have a feeling that one day I will be really into net. Especially when I am older and need to focus more on stretching than explosive bursts of energy.

LOFA wrote:

kramerica wrote:RE: Footbag

LOFA, you ever play with a guy named Corey Current? He's on a bunch of the youtube vids, has played in a lot of the international tournaments, championships, etc.

I've been trying to learn to play from him. We actually had a game scheduled today (but I lost my phone at the bar last night and must punish myself by not playing)

I'm not going to say that I never played with him, but I believe he is more of a Net player. I have friends back in NYC and Jersey that got heavily into net but I am strictly freestyle for now. I prefer to be competitive with myself rather than others. Well, this used to be the case until I discovered squash ... I have a feeling that one day I will be really into net. Especially when I am older and need to focus more on stretching than explosive bursts of energy.

Ahhh...I thought you meant footbagnet, since people often shorten the term to "footbag". Cool beans.

LOFA wrote:When 5 came out things were great but there was limitations in midi and cpu power. Then 6 came out with dual processor support and all of this rack stuff and larger idea things became very doable in live (ie:effective, experimental, workflow assisting and commercial grade racks, etc). By then however I was using max to do things on top of macros for a more organic feel.

Now live is at a state where with simple grid-based-drumpad very deep ideas can be immediately executed. The thing is that these are still ideas that pertain to a very new, but still very "ableton" manner of execution. I was probably running my mouth like a stoned highschool student because it was a Friday night and it was easier to be excited rather than get to work restructuring my Cycling74/ableton setup to benefit from from all of this.

The easier answer is to stick to the plan, but there are some tools in Version 7 that I never thought about. They are the results of great engineering vision and I excited about considering where these can lead.

I'm right there with you, Drum Rack's possibilities have me dazed and somewhat confused. it's not as befuddling as learning racks the first time around but the Abes added a new dimension, no doubt. dropping a synth into a drum rack cell, uhhhwhhhaat??

LOFA wrote:The money I was going to spend on the lucifer plugin is so totally going somewhere...

same here, life is now the biggest lucifer

just played a bit with the slicing audio to midi-rack function,
add any midieffects before the drum-rack and some individual fx per slices wow, a big new fantastic
world opens

massiv!

Tone Deft wrote:I'm right there with you, Drum Rack's possibilities have me dazed and somewhat confused. it's not as befuddling as learning racks the first time around but the Abes added a new dimension, no doubt. dropping a synth into a drum rack cell, uhhhwhhhaat??

Exactly.

I'll have to be honest though, racks were dropped to us during my last semester of college and since then I have been concentrating more heavily on carrying art concepts through the max/msp/jitter process and establishing a career than sitting down in the past and trying to pawn every live feature.

My next few days will be spent beta-testing while finding as many nooks and crannies as I can between drum racks, sampler, and the new routing options.