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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:14 pm
by Grifter
Hey ethios,
really liked what you are working on, sounding very fourtet which I like a lot
Looking forward to hearing how it turns out mate

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:20 pm
by ethios4
Glad to hear it's an appreciated direction to go.
I haven't been able to find the Chris Leibing - Razzia 2 track to listen to, so I have no idea if what I'm doing there bears any relation. Probably not

It's a lot of fun to mess with polymeter...now I'm going to go back in a try to make it a little more sensible...
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:21 pm
by ultrasonyk
djadonis206 wrote:I took a quick break from my studies and made a quick little minute mix of an example
http://virb.com/djadonis206
I'm at a desk so it was done through my laptop speakers - there may be no bass - hence no bassline
but the idea is there - with the delays and reverb
pm me and we can chat - I'll be back on big speakers in the am
word
and
peace
a
nice! that's exactly the style of drumkits i'm talking about
wanna share the .als ?
would help me a lot in understanding the technique....
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:45 pm
by djadonis206
Cool - unfortunately today I'm at the school all day but here's some ideas to get you started
delay and feedback
not 1/2 1/4 or 1/8th delays but
1's and 1/3's <-- sounds like a shuffle
run a basic kick clap hat pattern with any ole drum kit through a send track with your delay set to one of those settings -
compress hard - like threshold all the way down - then play with the ratio, release and attack until you get something pumping
throw a verb under the compressor so you get some ghostly pumps (that's odd but I said it

)
tomorrow i'll be able to send you a .als and if you have gmail we can chat and work through some stuff
aight - word
peace
a
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:30 pm
by ultrasonyk
sounds cool. thanks mate.
my gmail name is equal to my forum username...
anyway i'm already trying this setup, i'm just not sure about which compressor
to use. compressor II from live?
what about dynamic tube. it seems like a compressor to me. what's the
difference? what does it do?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:44 pm
by djadonis206
just an FYI I'm still on 5.2.2 (Ableton wont let me upgrade because I'm not in the beta testing, but that's neither here nor there) so I really can't comment on the Dynamic Tube plug-in you speak of
I use the Compressor 2 - it sounds cleaner than compressor 1
crank that threshold down to nothing, or if that sounds awful not to nothing
really a lot of what's going on is the delay and reverb being compressed - the compression when tweaked right will allow rhythmic fluctuations of nuances to come through - gives the impression your loop is alive
I can't personally speak for Ben Sims or Chris but from what I hear in their music they can take a good loop and not do much to it - but it sounds good and better and better as the loop plays on
I've achieved some good results with playing with the feedback - from extreme to none
have fun and we'll chat
peace
a
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:59 pm
by 3phase
you need to run around 20 loops of different orgins at the same time thru some distortion and delay..mix that with a very loud 4 on the floor 909 kick and kompress this heavily with a long attack time, so that the mud gets structurized by the kick... do 20 tracks in 1 hour and choose the one that reminds most to a groove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:18 pm
by djgroovy
3phase wrote:you need to run around 20 loops of different orgins at the same time thru some distortion and delay..mix that with a very loud 4 on the floor 909 kick and kompress this heavily with a long attack time, so that the mud gets structurized by the kick... do 20 tracks in 1 hour and choose the one that reminds most to a groove

That should be a relaxing piece of music!
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:28 pm
by 3phase
ups..sorry... 135bpm plus... and tons of hihats
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:29 pm
by Yotone
djadonis206 wrote:I took a quick break from my studies and made a quick little minute mix of an example
http://virb.com/djadonis206
I'm at a desk so it was done through my laptop speakers - there may be no bass - hence no bassline
but the idea is there - with the delays and reverb
pm me and we can chat - I'll be back on big speakers in the am
word
and
peace
a
Those drums are ace, man. Thanks for posting a sample. I've never really experimented with compressing an fx chain on a send... looking forward to fiddling with this some more.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:30 am
by tech44
Maybe the Razzia 2 wasn't the best example?
http://www.discogs.com/release/41637
In the notes:
"Tina from
www.cl-rec.com says that this release is NOT from Chris Liebing."
Is this the wrong one?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:04 am
by ultrasonyk
i haven't heard that song from "Eric Sneo".
i guess it's a different song with the same track name and
that might be the reason for that comment below
