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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:24 am
by Timur
Like I said, try to circumvent harddrive usage by using the RAM button with clips and see if that has any positive effect on your Live performance. If not then a faster drive wont help, if yes then go for it, but consider using an external 3.5" drive instead for even faster performance.

OT: R.J. here's the link (I used the search function to find it ;)). There are actually three different solutions and the Transport Buttons do work with them. 8)

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:27 am
by forge
Timur wrote:Like I said, try to circumvent harddrive usage by using the RAM button with clips and see if that has any positive effect on your Live performance. If not then a faster drive wont help, if yes then go for it, but consider using an external 3.5" drive instead for even faster performance.

OT: R.J. here's the link (I used the search function to find it ;)). There are actually three different solutions and the Transport Buttons do work with them. 8)
assuming you have adequate RAM - otherwise the lack of RAM may have a different adverse effect on performance

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:30 am
by Timur
You're right, but if you're missing RAM then it's not a question wether to buy a faster or bigger drive, but wether to buy more RAM. :D But in R.J.'s case I assume he's thinking about buying a new Macbook Pro (I'll wait for January until they announce the new ones with the new Intel processors). If you don't have to care for battery life then go for 7200rpm and make it 4gb right away. Later you can add some big external drive for more storage.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:25 am
by BASSbüro
@ timur: so is there a fast way to put all your clips in ram-mode? or have i go through all my clips (at least 100) an put each clip in ram-mode? i'm a lazy person.....he, he. :)

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:42 am
by forge
BASSbüro wrote:@ timur: so is there a fast way to put all your clips in ram-mode? or have i go through all my clips (at least 100) an put each clip in ram-mode? i'm a lazy person.....he, he. :)
just select them all first

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:51 am
by BASSbüro
forge, r u sure? mark all clips, go inside one clip, hit "ram-mode" and all other clips we'll be in "ram-mode", too?

cool........ :D

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:45 pm
by glu
forge wrote:
Timur wrote:Like I said, try to circumvent harddrive usage by using the RAM button with clips and see if that has any positive effect on your Live performance. If not then a faster drive wont help, if yes then go for it, but consider using an external 3.5" drive instead for even faster performance.

OT: R.J. here's the link (I used the search function to find it ;)). There are actually three different solutions and the Transport Buttons do work with them. 8)
assuming you have adequate RAM - otherwise the lack of RAM may have a different adverse effect on performance
Do you think a new macbook with 4gb ram and 200GB 7200RPM HD would outperform a stock macbook pro?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:50 pm
by Timur
glu wrote:Do you think a new macbook with 4gb ram and 200GB 7200RPM HD would outperform a stock macbook pro?
Using the same processor? Maybe... Macbooks need to share RAM with the graphic-chip which will steal bandwidth from applications (like Live). Also I am not sure wether you can trust a Macbook in its plastic chassis to remain stable when performing on a hot stage.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:17 pm
by wilxon
R.J.Dubya wrote:
wilxon wrote:i will be upgrading my hard drive soon - at the same time i change over to leopard.

I will be going for the new Western Digital 250gb 5400rpm intelliseek.

I may wait a month or so to get the 320gb one.


i think spare hard space = :lol:
Are you going to install it in your current machine?

Are you saying there will be an option for a 320gb drive in the macbook pros in a month, or there is one coming out separately you're thinking of that you will buy and install?

edit: Sorry, just read it again - Western Digital intelliseek will come out with a 320gb soon I guess. I'm brain dead today.

Yes - my MBP is coming to the end of its warranty in december - so there isnt anything to void.


You need a tool to undo the screws round the sides and then take out the keyboard & mouse panel, then unplug existing and connect new.

Western digital is advertising a 2.5" SATA 320GB intelliseek internal hard drive. 5400rpm.

I will doing it myself yes.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:20 pm
by wilxon
glu wrote:
forge wrote:
Timur wrote:Like I said, try to circumvent harddrive usage by using the RAM button with clips and see if that has any positive effect on your Live performance. If not then a faster drive wont help, if yes then go for it, but consider using an external 3.5" drive instead for even faster performance.

OT: R.J. here's the link (I used the search function to find it ;)). There are actually three different solutions and the Transport Buttons do work with them. 8)
assuming you have adequate RAM - otherwise the lack of RAM may have a different adverse effect on performance
Do you think a new macbook with 4gb ram and 200GB 7200RPM HD would outperform a stock macbook pro?
With the same processor yes, but you will need a new macbook to compare to an old MBP.

My answer is there fore NO.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:21 pm
by SubFunk
Timur wrote:
glu wrote:Do you think a new macbook with 4gb ram and 200GB 7200RPM HD would outperform a stock macbook pro?
Using the same processor? Maybe... Macbooks need to share RAM with the graphic-chip which will steal bandwidth from applications (like Live). Also I am not sure wether you can trust a Macbook in its plastic chassis to remain stable when performing on a hot stage.
it does, a friend of mine, funk d'void is using a black MB since a year now... more then every weekend across the world under very different circumstances... it did not let him down once.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:24 pm
by wilxon
Timur wrote:
glu wrote:Do you think a new macbook with 4gb ram and 200GB 7200RPM HD would outperform a stock macbook pro?
Using the same processor? Maybe... Macbooks need to share RAM with the graphic-chip which will steal bandwidth from applications (like Live). Also I am not sure wether you can trust a Macbook in its plastic chassis to remain stable when performing on a hot stage.
might start melting :lol:


Same goes for ANY laptop other than a macbook Pro or Powerbook :lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:26 pm
by wilxon
SubFunk wrote:
Timur wrote:
glu wrote:Do you think a new macbook with 4gb ram and 200GB 7200RPM HD would outperform a stock macbook pro?
Using the same processor? Maybe... Macbooks need to share RAM with the graphic-chip which will steal bandwidth from applications (like Live). Also I am not sure wether you can trust a Macbook in its plastic chassis to remain stable when performing on a hot stage.
it does, a friend of mine, funk d'void is using a black MB since a year now... more then every weekend across the world under very different circumstances... it did not let him down once.

Timur said HOT stage

:lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:28 pm
by SubFunk
wilxon wrote:
SubFunk wrote:
Timur wrote: Using the same processor? Maybe... Macbooks need to share RAM with the graphic-chip which will steal bandwidth from applications (like Live). Also I am not sure wether you can trust a Macbook in its plastic chassis to remain stable when performing on a hot stage.
it does, a friend of mine, funk d'void is using a black MB since a year now... more then every weekend across the world under very different circumstances... it did not let him down once.

Timur said HOT stage


:lol:
only thing i know, is... when lars plays it gets hoter then hot :D :lol: :D

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:31 pm
by wilxon
my opinion on the MB vs MBP argument is that you get what you pay for.


MB - lower CPU, lower Ram, Lower battery power, lower HD space, low on features = LOW ON PRICE

MBP - High CPU power, high RAM, LOnger lasting battery, Large HD, Extra features (backlit keyboard, metal casing, firewire 800, etc) = HIGH PRICE


So, get the most expensive one you can afford.