YIKES!!!! Live 7 Orchestral library is $800?

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Post by arachnaut » Tue May 06, 2008 5:25 pm

Tone Deft wrote: Orchestral sounds??? yeah, I wish I could finally find a good oboe instrument. why Abes, why?
The U of Iowa sound files are decent. Their oboe is clear,
clean, and monophonic. I don't know if this is what you are looking
for, but check out:

http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.Oboe.html

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Post by OvertoneZero » Tue May 06, 2008 5:29 pm

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Post by leedsquietman » Wed May 07, 2008 3:59 am

Analog and Operator are not lame compared to freeware - *show me the freeware *, esp for Operator as there are a gazillion freeware subtractive synth vsts out there, most of them have the odd usable sound but that's it.

There are a few exceptions, like Crystal, but the majority of freeware synths are very limited and not very good.

Operator technically is close to stacking up to FM8, which is not a cheap freeware synth.

Analog has been sold by AAS successfully and with good reviews for years.
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Post by leedsquietman » Wed May 07, 2008 4:02 am

The Live 6 (basic, no ableton synths) to Live 7 Suite upgrade cost me a mere 239 dollars with the edu license, so upgrade plus 5 kick ass instruments plus drum machines. Ableton give great concessions for students and educational professionals :)
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Post by djgroovy » Wed May 07, 2008 10:38 am

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/20 ... ction.html

That link quotes a €499/$599 price for it.

Edit: and so does this:

http://www.ableton.com/oic
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Post by Meef Chaloin » Wed May 07, 2008 10:47 am

im against the addons full stop - operator, sampler...all of them
im all for the company making money but this stuff's a joke

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Post by creature » Wed May 07, 2008 11:01 am

That price does seem very steep. I like to use lots of strings and orchestral stuff in my music. The pack does look interesting as it will have decent Live integration like session drums etc, but not at that price.

I can understand that this thing probs took a lot of time and man power to put together, but thats no excuse for such a price tag.

The pricing of Live is concerning me. I upgraded to the full suite this year, and it certainly wasn't cheap. I dotn really want to have to pay that sort of money each year!!!!!

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Post by gnapier » Wed May 07, 2008 11:08 am

This $800 price makes no sense....

You can get the Vienna Symphonic Library Special Edition bundle for only $100 more ($895) http://vsl.co.at/en/211/442/982/966/602.htm

Even $599 is a stretch as VSL Special Edition is only $450

With the whole 'matrixed' articulations thing available in the VSL player, it pretty much blows anything around it's price point away for doing super convincing sketches and mock-ups.

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Post by pepezabala » Wed May 07, 2008 11:39 am

I was quite disappointed that the EIC came without any written documentation - something like where to find the instruments in your library, how they were recorded, specifications (number of velocity layers etc). They could make the effort to include some sample-sets that show the sample set at it's full potental.

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Post by Action Jackson » Wed May 07, 2008 3:44 pm

At what price would you guys be willing to buy OIC? I'd probably buy it if it cost 200 euros or less. Now, no way! At the moment there are better (?) offers at a much better price. Anyone tried Garritan Personal Orchestra?

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Post by mikemc » Wed May 07, 2008 6:27 pm

Action Jackson wrote:At what price would you guys be willing to buy OIC? I'd probably buy it if it cost 200 euros or less. Now, no way!
If you reallllly like orch sounds, the section-at-a-time prices are less 8O

I like orch sounds but the EIC and EIC2 pretty well suffice for me, those two come in at right about the price you want.

For me, given the overlap with EIC, staccato and pizz strings and double bass variants aren't that big an enticement. Even so, the percussion collection at $129 seems interesting. And the crafty fellers knew just the right horns to leave out of the EICs to get you to consider the OIC brass :) a nice french horn can be nice.

I'm planning that one of my next youtube embarrassments will be an improvised modern classical piece using the EICs on two notebook PCs, one running 6 and the other 7.
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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Wed May 07, 2008 6:46 pm

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Post by mikemc » Wed May 07, 2008 7:03 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote:............................

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Post by Angstrom » Wed May 07, 2008 7:17 pm

if they could manage to sample the EIC in tune I would have a bit more confidence in the new Meta-Oboe , but as it is the EIC instruments are all over the place when you dig around inside them.

EG : the EIC guitars Upright Bass, the velocity layers are all out of tune. Play D1 with increasing volume ... listen to the sample go out of tune ? hmm, quality.

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Post by condra » Wed May 14, 2008 12:51 pm

Angstrom wrote:if they could manage to sample the EIC in tune I would have a bit more confidence in the new Meta-Oboe , but as it is the EIC instruments are all over the place when you dig around inside them.

EG : the EIC guitars Upright Bass, the velocity layers are all out of tune. Play D1 with increasing volume ... listen to the sample go out of tune ? hmm, quality.
ouch!

Upload a sample of that please!!!!

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