Is it just me or does Battery suck?

robleighton22 · Post by **robleighton22** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:01 pm

Daim wrote:I think Battery 2 was much better.. but there's no UB Version of it available, pretty lame.

i agree.

on battery 3, when i try and manipulate a particular cell it seems to manipulate all cells,i.e eq/compression, . wat am i doing wrong?

popslut · Post by **popslut** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:10 pm

v00d00ppl wrote:so i guess we can all come into agreement that the progrm sucks but the sound library is the dealbreaker?

Err - no.

A poor workman blames his tools.

Maybe RTFM?

ewistrand · Post by **ewistrand** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:30 pm

v00d00ppl wrote:so i guess we can all come into agreement that the progrm sucks but the sound library is the dealbreaker?

Nope...

ew

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:50 pm

v00d00ppl wrote:so i guess we can all come into agreement that the progrm sucks but the sound library is the dealbreaker?

I got it for $99, and I'm happy for that price, mostly for the samples. I like drum racks much better for my workflow, but Battery isn't too bad. The main thing I don't like is each kit has a totally different MIDI layout, as mentioned above. It makes no sense! I wish we could import Battery muti-samples into drum racks.

Then again, someone here is working on integrating drum racks and Battery!

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:58 pm

robleighton22 wrote: on battery 3, when i try and manipulate a particular cell it seems to manipulate all cells,i.e eq/compression, . wat am i doing wrong?

That was a random bug I kept getting too when I was using it.

v00d00ppl · Post by **v00d00ppl** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:19 pm

Homebelly wrote:
v00d00ppl wrote:so i guess we can all come into agreement that the progrm sucks but the sound library is the dealbreaker?
That would be a no from me,,,
But then i've been using it since version 1 and so i'm reasonably familiar with the samples,,
Beyond that though,, i pretty much use the same base samples every time and have them loaded into a user kit mapped how i like it,, same way as BFD as it happens,,
I can then swap out kicks,, snares,, hats,, what ever as i need but retain the same mapping,,,

i c....i been using battery on and off since version 2. i did hear version 1 is more stable than 2. one thing i didn't like about 2 was the latency between that and live 5 so i took a break from it. then i tried version 3 and although the latency was fixed on it....i still prefer to map the drums i need and put it in either impulse or sampler and mesh it with my own drum samples.

but for 12GB of drums for $99.........can i complain? 8.33 for 1GB of well recorded studio drums? with all the effects on battery /ableton/ etc there really is a need to keep on buying various drum libraries.....it is funny how people will buy battery then ask where they can get some hot reggaeton drums and you know all you really need to do is mess with the Eq and pitch those snares and you can stop buying rip off drum kits off of ebay

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:47 am

popslut wrote:
v00d00ppl wrote:so i guess we can all come into agreement that the progrm sucks but the sound library is the dealbreaker?
Err - no.

A poor workman blames his tools.

Maybe RTFM?

It's not the workman's fault when the tool is defective. I can read the manual all day, won't make a difference to the many things that are still broken in B3.

So I agree - the library is a good deal, but the program itself sucks.

YMMV...

popslut · Post by **popslut** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:35 am

jamester wrote: It's not the workman's fault when the tool is defective [...] many things that are still broken in B3. [...] the program itself sucks.

Well that's fucking weird - it works flawlessly for me.

I must be doing something wrong.

continuous · Post by **continuous** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:53 am

I don't know man.... a lot of people rock that shit.

I really like the sound of it but my beat building skills are whats the problem... setting up a template in Live has helped some though.

I definitely think they should add a little sequencer in though, that would rule.

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:52 am

It's not just me, you can go over to their forum and find page after page of people having the exact same problems. Like I said, they are planning another update. If it works great for you, consider yourself lucky. It's not that I don't like the program, I love it actually. But it's still a flaky POS for many many people; they've agknowledged the need for another update...what more can I say?

The price is great now, I paid $200 for it over a year ago. I agree it's worth a hundred bucks for the 12GB library alone. If it works well for you, that's icing on the cake. I wasn't so lucky.

Here's details on the upcoming update:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... hp?t=53921

The update will include the following improvements:

New and improved features:

* Browser preview for .CL3 files
* Improved In-Kit preview
* "Replace Sample" function for cells
* Improved Drag-and-drop support for hosts
* Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" compatibility
* Improved browser sorting
* Improved loading times

Fixes:

* Several stability fixes
* Several file import fixes
* Several host compatibility fixes
* Limitation to 24 outputs fixed
* Multiple triggered cells now light up correctly
* Several usability and cosmetic fixes

lis102trants · Post by **lis102trants** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:53 am

Haven't a clue what you mean about slow load times - my Battery loads sounds in about half a millisecond.

Sorry, I actually meant something else by slow load times - where you have to right-click a cell, choose cell library, choose the type of drum (cymbal, snare, tom, etc.), choose the style of drum (acoustic, processed, analog, digital, etc.), and finally choose a damn sample. And if that sound doesn't work out for me, I have to repeat the 5 step process all over again! Talk about a real groove killer

djfm · Post by **djfm** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:17 am

i find it works for me

popslut · Post by **popslut** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:24 pm

jamester wrote:...the program itself sucks.

jamester wrote:It's not that I don't like the program, I love it actually.

That's what I love about this forum - it's just packed with informed opinion from experts in their field.

popslut · Post by **popslut** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:27 pm

lis102trants wrote:...you have to right-click a cell, choose cell library, choose the type of drum (cymbal, snare, tom, etc.), choose the style of drum (acoustic, processed, analog, digital, etc.), and finally choose a damn sample. And if that sound doesn't work out for me, I have to repeat the 5 step process all over again! Talk about a real groove killer

So you haven't discovered the built-in browser yet then?

The one which allows you to browse for sounds, audition them with one click and then load them with a dbl click?

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:47 pm

popslut wrote:
jamester wrote:...the program itself sucks.

jamester wrote:It's not that I don't like the program, I love it actually.
That's what I love about this forum - it's just packed with informed opinion from experts in their field.

LOL