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nebulae wrote:Your ADDA converters are all you got. What you bounce is what you hear.

But if I bounce to disk it doesn't pass my DA converter. This conversion won't be in the output file.

Whereas I"m listening through my DA converter while I'm working in live.

Laura_Live wrote:

nebulae wrote:Your ADDA converters are all you got. What you bounce is what you hear.

But if I bounce to disk it doesn't pass my DA converter. This conversion won't be in the output file.

Whereas I"m listening through my DA converter while I'm working in live.

What are you bouncing to? Any medium has playback issues that depend on circuits, electricity, converters, etc. I guess I don't understand your concern. Why do you think if you bounce to disk, that what you hear will be different?

Laura_Live wrote:

pixelbox wrote:Interesting. Can I ask what your idea is? Why wouldn't you bounce to a file?

Since all you hear during mixing and composing, infact working in Live, is determined by the sound of your D/A (digital / analogue) conversion, wouldn't it make sense to record that rather creating a bounce that you never truly heard before?

Or is that CRAZY??

I'm not smart enough to know if that's crazy or not. Seems a little anal-retentive if you ask me, but I'm not an expert. I trust both Live and my soundcard to give me good bounce tracks. Is this wrong?

I bounce thru a desk from a Mac (with live) to a PC running Soundforge, as my master..

Mainly because I use a couple of hardware synths via midi to be mixed in with live, and an outboard compressor to give it bounce, and some sidechain - prefer the hardware variety!

Am i odd?

I need to end this post with a question. Is this rhetorical?

nebulae wrote:I need to end this post with a question. Is this rhetorical?

Do I have to answer that?

pixelbox wrote:

nebulae wrote:I need to end this post with a question. Is this rhetorical?

Do I have to answer that?

Is a cat's vagina also a pussy?

nebulae wrote:

pixelbox wrote:

nebulae wrote:I need to end this post with a question. Is this rhetorical?

Do I have to answer that?

Is a cat's vagina also a pussy?

It's not called a human?

pixelbox wrote:

nebulae wrote:

pixelbox wrote: Do I have to answer that?

Is a cat's vagina also a pussy?

It's not called a human?

aren't you clever?

nebulae wrote:

pixelbox wrote:

nebulae wrote: Is a cat's vagina also a pussy?

It's not called a human?

aren't you clever?

Has this thread fallen down hill enough yet?

I stopped worrying a digital analog analog digital. I play ukulele without recording it.

If you bounced you'd be going through your converters twice, which is not good for the "best" sound you can possibly get. For your stated purposes, all you'd really gain is a raised noise floor on the rendered wave. Just keep it ITB for as long as you can hold it, then read about mixdowns and the whole dithering thing, and then render and burn. I know you talked about bouncing not doing final mixdowns, but maybe the info won't hurt....

The only reason I see for this is to get that "awsome" rack/outboard effect into the mix, for that, I would break this rule. That and using some other computer as a tape deck.

best regards,
-h

pixelbox wrote:

nebulae wrote:

pixelbox wrote: It's not called a human?

aren't you clever?

Has this thread fallen down hill enough yet?

Do I dare let you get the last word?

Mesmer wrote:The only reason I see for this is to get that "awsome" rack/outboard effect into the mix, for that, I would break this rule. That and using some other computer as a tape deck.

best regards,
-h

Yup thats what im doing!

nebulae wrote:

pixelbox wrote:

nebulae wrote: aren't you clever?

Has this thread fallen down hill enough yet?

Do I dare let you get the last word?

I think we both know the answer to that, Neb., don't we?