Still no announcement of Live 7

musicmachine · Post by **musicmachine** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:15 pm

Nokatus wrote:Oh man. My initial post has morphed into a bug gripe thread, and the Announcements post is still missing

Aaand... I'm here to keenly observe it even though it's Christmas eve.

...

Nevertheless, about the bugs: I agree, the Abes are going to fix things. Live 7 is on a strong functional foundation, and the feature set rocks. At the moment it just seems that it got rushed for the release, and many people are experiencing rather annoying times with it.

I guess I got lucky, I switched my main computer to a Q6600 right before upgrading Live, so although I can see the massive CPU spikes which aren't in relation to anything actually running in the project, now I suddenly have so much headroom CPU-wise that everything keeps running more or less smoothly just the same . Still, it goes without saying it needs to be improved in order to be useful and reliable without a monster system (at the moment I can't rely on it on my laptop setup at all, for example).

In any case: don't worry too much, it's inevitably going to be better. Happy Holidays, people!

And to you!

And sorry for hijacking your thread.The sound quality of Live 7 is awesome!And i'm no longer getting cpu spikes when i press play or stop(touch wood)so it's looking good

For all the gripes Ableton is one superb piece of music software.Shame it's not working for some people though!

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:28 pm

Sorry, but I hate when people have the attitude "well it's a new release, they'll release bug fixes soon anyway". This is getting so prevelant in people's expectations these days, that it's ok to release software with known bugs as long as they update it within a few months. IF you know your software has bugs, it's a faulty product and should not be released period. If you have items on your bug fix list that aren't done, the software is NOT done. I certainly understand that a company needs income to continue working, but releasing unfinished products to do so is just bad business. Especially with Live, because:

- It's software that was SUPPOSED to be stable enough to perform live with. there's no way I'd get on a stage or in a DJ booth with Live 7 right now based on issues I've experienced directly.

- It's software designed for musicians, who are primarily artsits, which means that their core business is geared towards people who rely on sudden bouts of inspiration to do what they do. If your software causes bugs or crashes and causes you to lose that inspiration while you send off bug reports or do beta testing, you have FAILED your primary customers.

Sorry, but there's this common feeling that it's ok to release buggy software these days, that it's almost expected, and this is a huge no no to me.

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:06 pm

Tarekith, that's very true. At the same time, knowing that there will eventually be a fix is the only relevant consolation after things have already gone less than optimal. But I agree, stability and overall reliability should be the main features of a software package like Live.

There's a difference, however, between "oh crap, this software is awful", and "oh crap, this software is SO awesome, but I can't use it properly because of this bug." The first one is a product you forget right away, but the second one is something you support and keep an eye on, hoping it will overcome its times of trouble.

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:29 am

Yep, definitely 2008...