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hoonboy
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Post by hoonboy » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:05 pm

i'm getting the same sort of problem and i'm not even trying to midi sync. when i press play the counter starts but the audio arrives at the speakers about a beat later :(

its driving me insane. i have lots of live shows coming up and i could do without this sort of ting after spending nearly £2000 on laptop + ableton

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Post by thehumanmetronome » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:43 pm

hoonboy wrote:i'm getting the same sort of problem and i'm not even trying to midi sync. when i press play the counter starts but the audio arrives at the speakers about a beat later :(

its driving me insane. i have lots of live shows coming up and i could do without this sort of ting after spending nearly £2000 on laptop + ableton
I totally agree with you my friend. The lack of Midi sync in Live made my Ableton purchase literally USELESS. This isn't merely like a little bug in my opinion.....It's the absolute LACK OF FUNCTIONALITY in a VERY important feature for ANY DAW.

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Post by Timur » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:59 pm

Hoonboy's problem sounds more like a latency problem.

I have successfuly synced Live 7 to my Korg 01W Workstation. Live's was slaved to the 01W and playback was started via the 01W's inbuild sequencer/play-button. This launched a Midi clip in Live which in turn played the 01W via Midi and recorded the audio output of the 01W. I don't remember experiencing your problem thehumanmetronome, but I was using simple Midi Clock and not Midi Timecode, so that might be the source of the problem. Also I ran on Windows, not Mac OS.

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Post by thehumanmetronome » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:16 am

Timur wrote:Hoonboy's problem sounds more like a latency problem.

I have successfuly synced Live 7 to my Korg 01W Workstation. Live's was slaved to the 01W and playback was started via the 01W's inbuild sequencer/play-button. This launched a Midi clip in Live which in turn played the 01W via Midi and recorded the audio output of the 01W. I don't remember experiencing your problem thehumanmetronome, but I was using simple Midi Clock and not Midi Timecode, so that might be the source of the problem. Also I ran on Windows, not Mac OS.

Hmmm...Well if yours worked then, in theory, mine should work too. But Midi Time Code is actually supposed to be more stable than beat clock....I emailed support way earlier today and still have not received a response......

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Post by hoonboy » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:36 am

it doesn't sound like a latency issue, it sounds like a bug of some sort. my latency is set to around 13 milliseconds and it works fine. my problem is that the audio gets delayed somewhere inside the program. it hasn't always done it and it doesn't do it on every project but it does it enough to make me consider canceling gigs.

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Post by Timur » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:35 am

hoonboy wrote:it doesn't sound like a latency issue, it sounds like a bug of some sort. my latency is set to around 13 milliseconds and it works fine. my problem is that the audio gets delayed somewhere inside the program. it hasn't always done it and it doesn't do it on every project but it does it enough to make me consider canceling gigs.
Try switching off Latency Compensation. I think that one of your tracks/effects is causing Latency Compensation to delay the whole project by some audible ammount of time.

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Post by hoonboy » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:48 pm

erm, if i switch off delay compensation then i am guaranteed to get timing problems between tracks, which is why it is switched on by default i guess. it was my understanding that delay compensation is the thing that makes everything arrive at the stereo out at the same time, regardless of dsp delays caused by plugins.

in my case everything is arriving at the same time, just 1 or 2 beats later than it says on the screen. its fine for composing and even simple djing but when you got 6 tracks full of clips that you're trying to mix to 1/8 note accuracy at 215 bpm, that little delay at the beginning screws everything up.

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Post by Timur » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:01 pm

It was just a suggestion to find the source of your problems. Best is to write a mail to support.

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