for anyone who's ever considered a monome

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:22 am

from the monome forums:

"CommentAuthor tehn
CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
4.5 has old OSC objects. glad you figured it out."

this was in a conversation where a person couldn't the monome test program to responde.

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:32 am

UDPsend and UDPreceive werent added to the Standard Objects until 4.6. You had to use the CNMAT ones...

Been having so much fun with me 128...Just plug it in and Go. All apps are made to be able to control just using the monome and computer Keys/Midi. No need to get the mouse involved. The apps are also pretty minimal, only having the functionality required to get you going and inspire, from there its all about developing technique and skills...No bloat...New Version of Molar Rocks!

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:49 am

mike

I really like monochrome but I haven't tried molar cause in the youtube molar video you have to copy file extensions and what not which to me seems like a pain in the ass. has he implimented a proper file loading system yet?

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:13 am

You dont have to add the file extensions in the cfg file. That will just set up the row defaults. For instance if you add C:waves/crappy.wav to the first line of the cfg file, then your frst row in molar will always default to this file. You can brows through the files with the Wav function button on the botton row of your 'Nome.
You can also just load wav files using the Load button on the Molar interface...and then cycle through the same way...
Oh yeah, that Live Looper plugin that everyone on this forum seems to be talkin about, thats built into Molar, with a 128, you can map your LiveLoopage across 16, 32, 0r 64 steps and edit The Buffered Loop's Steps, Think MLR but in VST flavour...Thats MoLaR...

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:25 am

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:You dont have to add the file extensions in the cfg file. That will just set up the row defaults. For instance if you add C:waves/crappy.wav to the first line of the cfg file, then your frst row in molar will always default to this file. You can brows through the files with the Wav function button on the botton row of your 'Nome.
You can also just load wav files using the Load button on the Molar interface...and then cycle through the same way...
Oh yeah, that Live Looper plugin that everyone on this forum seems to be talkin about, thats built into Molar, with a 128, you can map your LiveLoopage across 16, 32, 0r 64 steps and edit The Buffered Loop's Steps, Think MLR but in VST flavour...Thats MoLaR...

how many audio clips can you capture in it? it appeared from the video that it was only the top row

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:47 am

Johnisfaster wrote:
mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:You dont have to add the file extensions in the cfg file. That will just set up the row defaults. For instance if you add C:waves/crappy.wav to the first line of the cfg file, then your frst row in molar will always default to this file. You can brows through the files with the Wav function button on the botton row of your 'Nome.
You can also just load wav files using the Load button on the Molar interface...and then cycle through the same way...
Oh yeah, that Live Looper plugin that everyone on this forum seems to be talkin about, thats built into Molar, with a 128, you can map your LiveLoopage across 16, 32, 0r 64 steps and edit The Buffered Loop's Steps, Think MLR but in VST flavour...Thats MoLaR...
how many audio clips can you capture in it? it appeared from the video that it was only the top row

Just set your row to LP1, then hold the wave function button and hit the rightmost button for that row...then the loop will get recorded to that row...Dont like the take just do it again...as many times as you like for as many rows as you have. Better results setting to LP1 before the you start Molar session, just hit up steve with a few anomalies, so im gonna give him a couple days break before i send him more...
Again Molar rules. Use it and send steve a nice donation.

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:34 pm

thanks for the info john, at least we're still struggling with all of this and that
means we're still human so that's a good thing

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:42 pm

after doing a lot of thinking about the 64 I am actually quite disappointed to see it being nearly the same friggin size as the 40h, even though the buttons are a LOT smaller! The walnut siding just makes it a huge, bloated chunk

I was really psyched about the 64, but now I just wish they would make a hybrid between the new and old models, to be honest....

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:33 pm

Machinate wrote:after doing a lot of thinking about the 64 I am actually quite disappointed to see it being nearly the same friggin size as the 40h, even though the buttons are a LOT smaller! The walnut siding just makes it a huge, bloated chunk

I was really psyched about the 64, but now I just wish they would make a hybrid between the new and old models, to be honest....

when my 128 first arrived I thought "it looks a little small" but after using it a little while I realised that it was a very comfortable fit for my hands. you can play it very musically because of the size of the buttons and how for they are appart is very comfortable.
the 40h had bigger buttons?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:35 pm

WAY bigger buttons.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:35 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:
Machinate wrote:after doing a lot of thinking about the 64 I am actually quite disappointed to see it being nearly the same friggin size as the 40h, even though the buttons are a LOT smaller! The walnut siding just makes it a huge, bloated chunk

I was really psyched about the 64, but now I just wish they would make a hybrid between the new and old models, to be honest....
when my 128 first arrived I thought "it looks a little small" but after using it a little while I realised that it was a very comfortable fit for my hands. you can play it very musically because of the size of the buttons and how for they are appart is very comfortable.
the 40h had bigger buttons?

Much bigger.

apfEID · Post by **apfEID** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:46 pm

Ironically, if the measurements on monome.org are accurate, the new 64 is slightly more than 2 cubic inches bigger than the 40h, because the 40h was 6.75 x 6.75 x 1.125, and the 64 is 6 x 6 x 1.5...

so the 64 is 54 cubic inches and the 40h is only 51.2578... cubic inches.

but in 2-d desk space consumption, the 64 is only 36 square inches and the 40h is 45.5625.

So it takes up (slightly) more space in your gig bag, but (slightly) less space on your desk.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:28 pm

apfEID wrote:Ironically, if the measurements on monome.org are accurate, the new 64 is slightly more than 2 cubic inches bigger than the 40h, because the 40h was 6.75 x 6.75 x 1.125, and the 64 is 6 x 6 x 1.5...

so the 64 is 54 cubic inches and the 40h is only 51.2578... cubic inches.

but in 2-d desk space consumption, the 64 is only 36 square inches and the 40h is 45.5625.

So it takes up (slightly) more space in your gig bag, but (slightly) less space on your desk.

-while having a totally redesigned and very very small brain and tiny buttons. Yes. Hooray for walnut.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:49 pm

Machinate, this is a subconscious effort on your part to deal with the immeasurable grief you're going through due to missing out on the 64. The buttons RULE and you knows it. That pain deep inside will go away, you just have to confront it head on man.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:57 pm

b0unce wrote:Machinate, this is a subconscious effort on your part to deal with the immeasurable grief you're going through due to missing out on the 64. The buttons RULE and you knows it. That pain deep inside will go away, you just have to confront it head on man.

yeah man, you're right - the buttons DO rule, it's the case I have a problem with...

Case in point (pun intended):
Here is the logic board... note the usb port for perspective -and the accelerometer in the top right... still love that:

And here's the final brick that is the 64:

- now, the woman may be tiny, we don't know. Meh. I give up. I will buy the kit when it comes out and build something insane for this.