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Once you've done the 10.5.2 update, make sure you check for updates again because I just did and there's a Leopard Graphics Update, around 46MB.

The problems that I had with Leopard seem to be gone now (at first sight). Although I have 1 major issue with Leopard (i dont know bout Tiger) which is the following:
If I navigate through folders in Finder with my Mighty Mouse, the icon images (folder icons etc) update very slow. When I navigate with the arrow keys, the slowlyness goes away.. in fact navigating now is supperfast! I have found a workaround for this but its not a good one: If you set the double click option of the mouse in sys prefs to FAST, the folder icons in Finder update way faster but then you have to double click like really really fast... whcih is a no-go for me. Did anyone found a remedy for this? I am not the only Apple user with this problem because after a few Google pulls I stumbled upon similar stories

dave999z wrote:I'm excited this is finally out. As soon as the Leopard DVDs at the Apple store are 10.5.2, I'm upgrading. <--that is the arbitrary point that I set and told myself I'd upgrade then. (Whenever I wipe my disk in the future, I didn't want to have to go back to 10.5.0 then download half a gig of updates to get where I need to go. And I assumed it'd be glitchy until 10.5.2 anyway.)

Be warned. I bought the nwe Leopard last week. Got it home and installed it (Wiped the dcrive and did a clean install).

To my surprise, there was no iPhoto, iMovie or iDVD included. Went to the Applestore to figure out what was up. The iKid told me that indeed, Jobs is selling those vital apps in a separate $80 disk.

The iKid allowed me to return the iGyp.

iBummed

yup, the iApps only come pre-installed with a new mac, not with a new OS.
10.5.2 seems ok here.

what does the "i" before all the Apple apps mean ?
isn't it a little boring.

iDon't think so.

The "i" stands for idiot-proof. If you can't figure something out, well, there you go. PC people are always over thinking shit.

aniajudie wrote:what does the "i" before all the Apple apps mean ?
isn't it a little boring.

its not boring but it is condescending, arrogant & extravagant.. a little bit childish and funny too. iLike it
iHave an iMac and iDig it

kabuki wrote:To my surprise, there was no iPhoto, iMovie or iDVD included. Went to the Applestore to figure out what was up. The iKid told me that indeed, Jobs is selling those vital apps in a separate $80 disk.

Is it not possible to get them from the disks you got with your Mac? A quick Google reveals this forum post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=378261

mkelly wrote:

kabuki wrote:To my surprise, there was no iPhoto, iMovie or iDVD included. Went to the Applestore to figure out what was up. The iKid told me that indeed, Jobs is selling those vital apps in a separate $80 disk.

Is it not possible to get them from the disks you got with your Mac? A quick Google reveals this forum post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=378261

It is indeed possible, I've done it. I believe its install extra or additional software option from your Tiger disks (you will need DVD 2)

tricil wrote:

mkelly wrote:

kabuki wrote:To my surprise, there was no iPhoto, iMovie or iDVD included. Went to the Applestore to figure out what was up. The iKid told me that indeed, Jobs is selling those vital apps in a separate $80 disk.

Is it not possible to get them from the disks you got with your Mac? A quick Google reveals this forum post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=378261

It is indeed possible, I've done it. I believe its install extra or additional software option from your Tiger disks (you will need DVD 2)

I am pretty sure that has been standard with every big (not point) upgrade. You are only buying the OS, not the extra bundled goodies that you get with a new computer (therefore you have to go and install them from your old discs, or buy the new iLife).