Dummy Clips Revisited Part 3

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:29 pm

tempus3r wrote:
sparklepuff wrote:And there you have it, folks: Live's own in-house version of Effectrix.

Want to use it on the fly? Change the clips launch mode to Gate, no quantization, map some midi notes to the clips and fire away.

Save your $130.
While what the hoffer has posted here and Ableton has provided is very powerful and cool, I wouldn't say it completely replaces what Effetrix can do. I can spend tons of time creating racks to try to emmulate the Effectrix effects, or I can just load Effectrix. It's much quicker to get something out of Effectrix than messing with chains and clip envelopes and racks and all that.

Plus, which Ableton "in-house" effect would do the tape stop type effect in a dummy clip situation?

That was for everybody bitching about the price of Effectrix. Obviously it's not exactly copy-able - but you can also use whatever plugs you own to also make stuff that can't be done with Effectrix. It's just another tool, don't take me fucking literally.

Why spend tons of time emulating? Make your own effect chains. And when you're done -----------

You can just load the rack you've made. Whenever you want.

blank · Post by **blank** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:46 pm

tempus3r wrote:
Plus, which Ableton "in-house" effect would do the tape stop type effect in a dummy clip situation?

None in ableton honestly but there is a lot of free one out there. I love building racks sometimes, once it's saved you have it accessible as fast as any plugin and you can modify it to suite your needs.

Building racks is a good sunday morning activity ( with a little cup of green tea)

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:47 am

blank wrote:
tempus3r wrote:
Plus, which Ableton "in-house" effect would do the tape stop type effect in a dummy clip situation?
None in ableton honestly but there is a lot of free one out there. I love building racks sometimes, once it's saved you have it accessible as fast as any plugin and you can modify it to suite your needs.

Building racks is a good sunday morning activity ( with a little cup of green tea)

word.

djgroovy · Post by **djgroovy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:28 pm

blank wrote: Building racks is a good sunday morning activity

Touching them is for saturday nights...

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:40 pm

djgroovy wrote:
blank wrote: Building racks is a good sunday morning activity
Touching them is for saturday nights...

Snap!

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:51 pm

Here's what I am trying to do with dummy clips.
I'v got it almost there but not quite.

I'm trying to turn on and off follow actions.

I've got it working, but not quite the way I want.

I have track A with clips 1 and 2
and track B with clips 1a and 2a
I can set up 1a and 2a from track B to launch 1 and 2 in track A with follow actions no problem.
I want to be able to fire clips 1 and 2 and have this disengage the follow actions.

I know I can set up clips 1b and 2b to fire clips 1 and 2, and this works.

the thing is that 1 and 2 give me lighted feedback of which clip is playing, so with follow actions I get the proper light feedback.

I want to fire the non-following clips with the buttons giving me the feedback.

I can make it work by mapping a button to the stop button, but now I have to stop the follow action to launch the single clips. This works but it's an extra button press. I suppose I'll adjust to this quickly enough, but I like the idea in my head better.

Any guru's out there have any advice?

blank · Post by **blank** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:54 pm

djgroovy wrote:
blank wrote: Building racks is a good sunday morning activity
Touching them is for saturday nights...

every night of the week in fact

I've builded and efectrix like rack using dummy clip in live, once controls are mapped I achieve way more chirugical realtime audio manipulation than with efectrix plugin type.

My problems with plug like those are the loss of audio quality ( didn't try efectrix, suppose to be better.) Using live, sound quality is way better ( except when live start glitching like and asshole)

The rack took me 40 minuts to build.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:05 pm

thanks for the tips!

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:39 pm

New video up. Part 2: Combining Clips

- Click here to get the video

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:58 pm

Bjorn, you insane you!

Mesmer · Post by **Mesmer** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:11 am

hoffman2k wrote:New video up. Part 2: Combining Clips

- Click here to get the video

Great as always Hoffman2k!
thanks.

btw, I found it LOL funny your phrase in the beginning:
"pick a clip. any loop will do" (something similar)
reminded me of "pick a card, any card"
magician, you...
lol
-h

heavensdaw · Post by **heavensdaw** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:10 am

Great!! Thanks Hoff.. You're THE man

Hd

synnack · Post by **synnack** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:36 pm

sparklepuff wrote:
tempus3r wrote:
sparklepuff wrote:And there you have it, folks: Live's own in-house version of Effectrix.

Want to use it on the fly? Change the clips launch mode to Gate, no quantization, map some midi notes to the clips and fire away.

Save your $130.
While what the hoffer has posted here and Ableton has provided is very powerful and cool, I wouldn't say it completely replaces what Effetrix can do. I can spend tons of time creating racks to try to emmulate the Effectrix effects, or I can just load Effectrix. It's much quicker to get something out of Effectrix than messing with chains and clip envelopes and racks and all that.

Plus, which Ableton "in-house" effect would do the tape stop type effect in a dummy clip situation?
That was for everybody bitching about the price of Effectrix. Obviously it's not exactly copy-able - but you can also use whatever plugs you own to also make stuff that can't be done with Effectrix. It's just another tool, don't take me fucking literally.

Why spend tons of time emulating? Make your own effect chains. And when you're done -----------

You can just load the rack you've made. Whenever you want.

If you do not want to be taken literally, don't say things like "Save your $130.". That exactly means to say "there is no reason to buy Effectrix, you can do the same thing with Ableton and Dummy clips." which is actually not true.

That was my point.

I am fully aware you can save racks. However being able to sequence the effects into patterns quickly using a grid of squares is a fuck ton quicker than taking (even a saved rack), playing it in some way, consolidating it, bringing it back into session view, etc..

As mentioned in another Effectrix thread, you can do very similar things with racks, but it's all about workflow and for some people that $130 might be worth it.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:25 pm

Part 3 has been posted.
The third video illustrates how you can route a sound on-the-fly to a Dummy Clip Track or any other destination.

http://www.covops.org/index.php/Tips-an ... sited.html