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Post by karl » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:47 pm

hi inmazevo ,,im allmost sure its intel one,,i could be lying,,,like i say im real shit when it comes to spec and wiring up my studio,,,i paid £2050 including logic 8 and 3 year warranty,,,cant wait to get upgraded to live 7,,was going to ask is it straight forward grabbing my old arrangements from live 6 and pulling them into live 7 ...... thanks k ;-0

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Post by djsynchro » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:51 pm

Macs are for girls so I think you're gonna love it! :D

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Post by TITBAG » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:12 pm

macs are boutique products aimed at receptions of hair salons. they are used by bouffanted ponce gaylords who cannot handle anything more complex than one mouse button. they are hideously expensive and utterly restrictive. real men use windows and get the fucking job done with raw power and unlimited options.

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Post by karl » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:40 pm

macs are boutique products aimed at receptions of hair salons. they are used by bouffanted ponce gaylords who cannot handle anything more complex than one mouse button. they are hideously expensive and utterly restrictive. real men use windows and get the fucking job done with raw power and unlimited options.


ha ha quite funny,,i totaly disagree about boutique products and ponce gaylords,,yes there pricey but after finaly moving to my mac life is so much easier,,ive been getting the job done on raw power and unlimited options for nearly 10 years when finaly i got sick of my shit p.c taking 10 minutes to boot up and crashing every other 5 minutes it was time for a change,,how come just about every big studio and artist in the country are using them,,,you need to get out the dole cue get a job and purchase one of these tanks and stop perving thru the windows of hair salons... :twisted:

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Post by TITBAG » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:49 pm

karl wrote:macs are boutique products aimed at receptions of hair salons. they are used by bouffanted ponce gaylords who cannot handle anything more complex than one mouse button. they are hideously expensive and utterly restrictive. real men use windows and get the fucking job done with raw power and unlimited options.


ha ha quite funny,,i totaly disagree about boutique products and ponce gaylords,,yes there pricey but after finaly moving to my mac life is so much easier,,ive been getting the job done on raw power and unlimited options for nearly 10 years when finaly i got sick of my shit p.c taking 10 minutes to boot up and crashing every other 5 minutes it was time for a change,,how come just about every big studio and artist in the country are using them,,,you need to get out the dole cue get a job and purchase one of these tanks and stop perving thru the windows of hair salons... :twisted:
you have been brainwashed, and was powerless to resist. big studios got caught up in the digidesign hype, and also the wow factor of the looks - same as the hair salons really - graphic designers also fall for this every time. studios had huge desks for the same reason, to impress their shallow clients.

as for your life being easier, it's simple. you mangled your windows install with a ton of crapware and got buttfucked by every virus going because you didnt knwo what the hell you were doing, you were just sat in a stoned pornwank frenzy for days, wondering why fruityloops wouldnt load no mo'...

artists copy what the studios have - they think it will give them THE MAGIC. it's just another 'shortcut' that leads to a dead end - look how many mac users STILL cant get their shit together, even afetr shelling out the big bucks. there comes a point where if you want your computer to work for you, you better know how it works.

the latest imac does look nice tho lol, pc manufacturers are doing themselves no favours with their apparent total disregard for design.

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Post by robfoster » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:49 pm

I would move to pc, unfortunately ive yet to see one thats any good...
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Post by Daim » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:28 pm

robfoster wrote:I would move to pc, unfortunately ive yet to see one thats any good...
in the pc world u don't need to buy allInOne shit, u can select the components yourself :lol:

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Post by Pasha » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:35 pm

I use WinXP & Linux at work.
when I'm at home I want to relax and think about music without worries about the OS. The new iMac I got since June does what I need.
I'm am not a fanboy because I'm no boy anymore... :-(
I know the difference and I chose Apple because I have spend enough time
on the tech side, I want to make music and have fun.

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Post by aburgener » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:42 pm

amen. by the time i get home, i've spent all day looking at xp. os x is a nice change.

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Post by supamonsta » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:53 pm

TITBAG.... :roll:

are you really so... so.. I can't find the word (I know you'll be soon nearly insulting me for this, but I can't resist to feed the troll :lol:


let people be happy with their macs, and other switch to mac if they want, because macs are really good computers, that you can overload with crap without waiting 10 minutes to launch your fav' application. We like making music with computers, like you. We like having computers that don't need regular 'maintenance" to be stable and powerful. I don't speak of the aesthetics. I speak of comfort.

I switched to mac after 10 years pc and windows tweaking, and I'm really glad to have done the switch to mac. Life is now so much more easy, and I can now trust my computer.

this debate is crap. you make crap of an interesting post.

If you're not interested in macs, so that's ok. No one said pc's were crap here. Just people happy with their computers encouraging other people to buy the same and enjoy unsing it. sorry if the brand often quoted is spelled "M_A_C". But you could understand macs are Personal Computers, just a particular brand that lots of people are really happy to work with.

get some rest, get back to your allmighty pc wisdom and let us be happy mac users. (do you really have to know the acoustic science and technology to play good piano songs? do you really have to know all about the technology of your instrument to be a good musician?)

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Post by Pasha » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:53 am

monstrejumo wrote:TITBAG.... :roll:

are you really so... so.. I can't find the word (I know you'll be soon nearly insulting me for this, but I can't resist to feed the troll :lol:


let people be happy with their macs, and other switch to mac if they want, because macs are really good computers, that you can overload with crap without waiting 10 minutes to launch your fav' application. We like making music with computers, like you. We like having computers that don't need regular 'maintenance" to be stable and powerful. I don't speak of the aesthetics. I speak of comfort.

I switched to mac after 10 years pc and windows tweaking, and I'm really glad to have done the switch to mac. Life is now so much more easy, and I can now trust my computer.

this debate is crap. you make crap of an interesting post.

If you're not interested in macs, so that's ok. No one said pc's were crap here. Just people happy with their computers encouraging other people to buy the same and enjoy unsing it. sorry if the brand often quoted is spelled "M_A_C". But you could understand macs are Personal Computers, just a particular brand that lots of people are really happy to work with.

get some rest, get back to your allmighty pc wisdom and let us be happy mac users. (do you really have to know the acoustic science and technology to play good piano songs? do you really have to know all about the technology of your instrument to be a good musician?)

peace
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Post by supamonsta » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:30 am

thanks for your support Pasha ;)

I read your "signature" and see you got a mcbook and an imac.

I'm thinkin about buying an imac to have a more powerful and comfortable desktop workstation, becaus my macbook 2ghz, 3gb ram seems to have more and more difficulties to work my huge live/composing/arranging set.

And the screen is too minus with my 38 tracks !!!

do you think I'll feel a real difference, from a macbook cd2 2ghz 3gb ram to a 2,8ghz cd2 imac with the same amount of ram?

do you think a 20' is enough, or shall I directly go to the 24" ?

and last question : is it easy to upgrade the imac ram, like in the macbook?

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Post by tw1nstates » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:13 pm

I would suggest rather than buy a Imac get a refurb mac pro for £1500, i bought one relatively recently and it was the lowest specced model of the current generation (actually now just been superceded a few weeks ago) nyway I have a core 2 duo macbook as well and that was just not powerful enough. . . I was constantly having to freeze stuff. This one has power in oodles and it sounds like you are looking to spend almost as much anyway.

Worth the extra couple of hundred. . .
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Post by supamonsta » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:37 pm

I don't know why, but macbook pros don't really get my interest.

they are nearly the same as macbooks, with better video perfs and bigger HD, aren't they? and of course bigger sized, with aluminium and more solid housing I guess.

I am not so much attracted by a so much expensive portable computer, If I have $$ I think I'd rather buy a really big computer, that I won't bring on to the road, so it can have a really huge screen, and represent $$$$ gear that will safely remain at home...

I have a laptop, little "crappy" plastic macbook, that fits very well to my live gigs, and not afraid to carry with me even in a rainy and illegal open air punk party... I think I would not do the same with a 1800€ macbook pro...

13" macbooks are for me the ideal laptop : little and powerful, cheap (I know... but I'm multi-millionaire french hype macboy, yes titbag )

My next purchase will probably be iMac, as I can't afford a mac pro + screen + keyboard + ... + ram + ...

imac is all-in-one, and for me far better than a macbook pro that is, IMHO far too much overrated.

but is a 2.8ghz cd2 iMac really better than a 2ghz cd2 macbook, in terms of audio computing performances ? 8O

thanks for your advice anyway,
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Post by 4ace » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:15 pm

monstrejumo wrote:I don't know why, but macbook pros don't really get my interest.

they are nearly the same as macbooks, with better video perfs and bigger HD, aren't they? and of course bigger sized, with aluminium and more solid housing I guess.

I am not so much attracted by a so much expensive portable computer, If I have $$ I think I'd rather buy a really big computer, that I won't bring on to the road, so it can have a really huge screen, and represent $$$$ gear that will safely remain at home...

I have a laptop, little "crappy" plastic macbook, that fits very well to my live gigs, and not afraid to carry with me even in a rainy and illegal open air punk party... I think I would not do the same with a 1800€ macbook pro...

13" macbooks are for me the ideal laptop : little and powerful, cheap (I know... but I'm multi-millionaire french hype macboy, yes titbag )

My next purchase will probably be iMac, as I can't afford a mac pro + screen + keyboard + ... + ram + ...

imac is all-in-one, and for me far better than a macbook pro that is, IMHO far too much overrated.

but is a 2.8ghz cd2 iMac really better than a 2ghz cd2 macbook, in terms of audio computing performances ? 8O

thanks for your advice anyway,
best regards
I was Feeling the same way until i saw only a $200 difference between the two in the refurb shop...
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