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I could have done light feedback easily. I use a Doepfer CTM64 to send note messages. Add a MTC64 and you got light feedback.
The reasons why I don't do that :
-my machine is already done for a long time.
-Doepfer are a bit expensive.
-I prefer my monome.

no.


but the Make controller looks like a crazy fun way to play with max. I gotta retire, not enough time.

Could you be more precise, please?

no.

work is for chumps.

I don't really speak English well. I just guess you are treating me like a fool, and that's really great from you.
I just wanted to help. Sorry, mister "I know everything, you are shit".
I thought it was a community here...

Thinking of it, you are right, it won't work without extra coding.

julienb wrote:are you satisfied with your controller?
especially about clip triggering and the poor way provides by the actual Live version?

when will ableton give us more information about that ??

i have a lemur, does that count as building my own controller?

chapelier fou wrote:I don't really speak English well. I just guess you are treating me like a fool, and that's really great from you.
I just wanted to help. Sorry, mister "I know everything, you are shit".
I thought it was a community here...

fucking LOL

gomi wrote:

julienb wrote:are you satisfied with your controller?
especially about clip triggering and the poor way provides by the actual Live version?

when will ableton give us more information about that ??

i have a lemur, does that count as building my own controller?

I do to. Yes, it counts.

chapelier fou wrote:I don't really speak English well.

until now you had me fooled, your English has always been better than mine.

I just guess you are treating me like a fool, and that's really great from you.

chill. the joke was not on you, it was just me making a short reply, and a shorter reply to a question.

I'm not planning on a controller but the Make controller looks like a great companion to max, something to play with.

I just wanted to help.

not sure what you're asking for help with, guess I can look back, or not, you're kinda mean.

Sorry, mister "I know everything, you are shit".
I thought it was a community here...

excuse ME mister, you're the one starting in on the insults. think about it.

Thinking of it, you are right, it won't work without extra
coding.

not sure what you mean.

chill man, nobody's out to get you, we all get into bad moods, I take it you're in one.


TITBAG FTW

Sorry for all this. It's really a pain to explain my thoughts in English, no kidding. I assure you I felt insulted, but I probably misunderstood, like I often do.
By extra coding I meant : as far as I know, midi clip feedback outputs a note only at the starting of the clip, so it would only flash the lights when it beggins or loops. So a pd or max or whatelse patch should run at the same time, for keeping notes on while playing.

nice words (except the misunderstanding ...but it is normal, it happens on international forum, no prob!)

Lemur? it counts for "building guys"! (for my opinion)
Lemur is a bit expensive for my musical budget, but one day... who knows..


the main subject here was: when ableton will give solutions about the feedback (i mean, the REAL feedback) from Live?
I guess, we won't have ANY informations for a long time

What feedback are you looking for? Hasn't Martin just hacked about every bit of info we can use for a controller?

Bjorn,
I meant "native feedback"
directly from live without any interfaces!

other feedback ideas that can be send on a request only or real-time:
- playing status (I know, it exists, but real infos like the little "clock" on each track)
- clip looped or not
etc

I just try to put further our desires... but indeed, Bjorn, a lot of things are already available (as Ableton Live 7.03 for instance :p )

julienb wrote:programming it seems to be very documented.

i'd like to see that documentation
As long as we are talking about designing ones own controllers, then full and easily readable instructions on how to multiplex and demux on a dev. board are lacking... There are walkthroughs on arduino.cc, but none are easily scalable.

hoffman2k wrote:What feedback are you looking for? Hasn't Martin just hacked about every bit of info we can use for a controller?

yes. key word is "hacked", though. This isn't a high-bandwidth stream of easily parsable OSC. instead, it's obfuscated data, uncovered by techie users.

surely that's not an ideal situation, bjorn?