[url]hy use impulse when we have drum racks?

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Post by carsandtrains » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:32 am

drum racks are great... i have a drum rack i use live with maybe 600 sounds programmed into it.

i've found for some reason velocity seems to not be working... i assume the simpler instances have a default velocity setting?

if so, how would you change it globally when the samples are all already in the drum rack? would love to have my full 127 levels of velocity back.

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Post by jamester » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:56 am

I'll chime in and say that while I think the Drum Rack's functionality is fantastic, I still prefer Impulse over Simpler by far. Sampler is better, but sometimes even too much. Impulse is just right for drum samples. I think they should make a one-pad "mini Impulse" specifically for the Drum Racks, based on Simpler but drum-specific.
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Post by djgroovy » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:32 pm

Go to one of the simplers, change the velocity to 100% and then right click on it and select "copy value to sibblings".

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Re: [url]hy use impulse when we have drum racks?

Post by Newecho » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:11 pm

numerotre wrote:What do you use impulse for, in ableton 7?
cuz i cannot find a good reason to use it over drum racks...[/url]
Having both is great. One reason I still use impulse is that for the most part the MANY drum patches are mapped to the same midi note. Example- the kick and closed high-hat are always on the same pad. Therefore, you can cerate a beat with one impulse kit then simply switch to another impulse kit and still get the same rythmic result but with different sounds. I've gotten some prett interesting results by creating a pattern then swapping kits.
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Post by Trypset » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:07 am

i like impulse b/c i mapped my Korg Electribe sampler right to it...it has many of the same features as my hardware...drum racks seem very cool but also very confusing......and i can do the same thing, individually map single hits to single channels, and send all or 1 to a return track.
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Post by koneko » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:04 am

i like to build drumracks with impulses in it. so i have one impulse for kicks, one for snares etc. and map micros on the DR, to midi-pitch in front of the impulse, to choose the one kick i want. if i want another kick from this selection to be available, i just duplicate its impulse to another DR cell.
impulse is still great to hold the drum sounds in it. its much snappier to throw the sounds in it and have all the right tweaks ready out of the box.

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Post by Poster » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:29 am

koneko wrote:its much snappier to throw the sounds in it and have all the right tweaks ready out of the box.
+1

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Post by ze2be » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:47 am

The Crane wrote:Being able to globally transpose a whole impulse kit up and down is a nice effect which is more hassle to do in drum racks
When you start to build up a new drum rack, assign transpose from the first simpler slot to a makro. Now copy paste the simpler to the other slots, and just drop new samples into them.

The makro will now controll all the simplers transpose.

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Post by Trypset » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:49 pm

i am takieng that everything can be accomplished with both. Its pure preference.
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Post by leisuremuffin » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:36 pm

nice thread!


somehow i managed to miss the copy to siblings command before this!


anyway, i like impulse. sometimes i throw one in a drum rack....


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Post by roby » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:45 pm

i still use Impulse for simple drums. i haven't fully explored drum racks yet.

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Post by Meef Chaloin » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:57 pm

i still use impulse...no racks or anything (dont have v7).
I have been thinking about using Simplers in a big rack to get more control over layering but gonna be a pain in the ass to manually select all the hits from kits

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Post by Trypset » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:03 pm

i wish each cell on the impulse could have its own chain that lead to a samp/simpler :)
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Post by Machinate » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:03 pm

Trypset wrote:i am takieng that everything can be accomplished with both.
that would be remarkably wrong ;) Try putting long cymbals in an Impulse and see what happens!

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Post by Trypset » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:04 pm

are you not able to turn the decay up for that long cymbals cell?
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