Ableton Forum

stjohn wrote:

thelike5 wrote:Hey Lo-fi, in other news, you should check out this product called a Roland TB-303. I hear it's pretty good at creating basslines for electronic music.

I'm pretty sure people have heard of those in Europe but maybe since it's been featured on a few albums by American recording artists I'm just being close minded. Dunno.

you must get on great with the girls

I do alright actually!

Seriously, read the comments I was responding to. Calling out DEMF as being something only Americans are into is preety irresponsible... don't you think?

If we acted like it was an exclusive American thing and only booked artists from the states we would be snobs for not including the rest of the world. Detroit throws a party for the entire globe featuring a plethora of international artists and this guy thinks it's something only Americans should know about!

so someone hasnt heard of it - neither had i. looks great though. relax.

lol...wow

Never heard of it either, but again we _are_ a bit behind with this music thingy overhere.

I'm sure it's great though.

Seeing that I'm two hours away from the festival and it has been drawing pretty huge crowds the last eight years maybe it's very American of me to assume the rest of the world knows what DEMF stands for.


Then again, I know what Glastonbury, All Tomorrow's Parties, Reading Fest, I Love Techno, Sonar and Mutek are all about too...

hangar17 wrote:

MalakitheMostHi wrote:I played the DEMF the first year with Binary Star, the second year with Subterraneous Records(Binary's original label) and 2004 with Sleeper Cell Records(My label). They dont do much experimental/hardcore Hip Hop any more. It's a damn shame!

But it is what it is...
Did I hear Carl Craig was runnin it this year?

what ever happened to binary star?
i'm pretty much out of touch thats for sure

Binary Star broke up and Myself and One Be Lo of Binary Star did an album with a few other catsd called Waterworld Too(2), that was on Subterraneous records, and then Me and Senim Silla(of Binary Star) formed Sleeper Cell Records and dropped an all exclusive, self produced mix CD entitled "Peace or Piece" you can order them both on my myspace.com page
http://www.myspace.com/malakithemosthi

BUT, I JUST ROCKED A SHOW WITH BINARY DOWN AT ST ANDREWS HALL LAST SATURDAY, THEYRE TOURING AND WORKING ON A NEW ALBUM!!!
HIT ME ON MY SPACE AND ILL KEEP YOU UPDATED, THEYRE PUTTING STREET TEAMS AND PROMO TOGETHER NOW!

MalakitheMostHi wrote:

hangar17 wrote:

MalakitheMostHi wrote:I played the DEMF the first year with Binary Star, the second year with Subterraneous Records(Binary's original label) and 2004 with Sleeper Cell Records(My label). They dont do much experimental/hardcore Hip Hop any more. It's a damn shame!

But it is what it is...
Did I hear Carl Craig was runnin it this year?

what ever happened to binary star?
i'm pretty much out of touch thats for sure

Binary Star broke up and Myself and One Be Lo of Binary Star did an album with a few other catsd called Waterworld Too(2), that was on Subterraneous records, and then Me and Senim Silla(of Binary Star) formed Sleeper Cell Records and dropped an all exclusive, self produced mix CD entitled "Peace or Piece" you can order them both on my myspace.com page
http://www.myspace.com/malakithemosthi

BUT, I JUST ROCKED A SHOW WITH BINARY DOWN AT ST ANDREWS HALL LAST SATURDAY, THEYRE TOURING AND WORKING ON A NEW ALBUM!!!
HIT ME ON MY SPACE AND ILL KEEP YOU UPDATED, THEYRE PUTTING STREET TEAMS AND PROMO TOGETHER NOW!

Yeah, Binary Star was real nice. My friend Paul used to play the first album for me all the time.

He turned me on to a lot of good hip hop.

I stand corrected. And finally I feel as part of a scene now that I know what DEMF is.

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thelike5 wrote:Seriously, how many Europeans that surf the Ableton boards haven't heard of DEMF?

Oh! Oh! Me, I haven't!!!

I'll be there. I'm a Detroiter, and have been every year since the beginning. Really though, it is an amazing weekend and an excellent time. Last year I met people from Germany, UK, Brazil, Japan, Australia and all over the US and Canada to be there for the festival.

I can't say enough about it; every year when it ends I just think to myself "Just 365 days till the next one..."

in fairness the lineup does look great. Sonar has gone downhill IMo. too much mnml bollox. maybe one year ill travel ver for this..

or better yet, maybe one year ill headline!

thelike5 wrote: Here's the attendance figures over the years:

DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million *
DEMF 2001: 1.7 million *
DEMF 2002: 1.7 million *
Movement 2003: 630,000
Movement 2004: 150,000 **
Fuse-In 2005: 44,920 ***
Fuse-In 2006: 41,000 ****

Christ, who's the one taking the piss here?

signal wrote:

thelike5 wrote: Here's the attendance figures over the years:

DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million *
DEMF 2001: 1.7 million *
DEMF 2002: 1.7 million *
Movement 2003: 630,000
Movement 2004: 150,000 **
Fuse-In 2005: 44,920 ***
Fuse-In 2006: 41,000 ****

Christ, who's the one taking the piss here?

? Why would posting attendance figures be taking the piss?

Are you referencing the fact that the numbers have dropped dramatically? That's probably because they actually started charging for it.

To be fair the first three years they had pretty inaccurate counts, due largely to the fact that they didn't have tickets, so chances are it was never quite that high. Still, 2007 had a much larger attendance than 2006 (which was probably the worst year as they were going through a lot of changes on how the festival was put together) and this year they're saying they're already beating last years ticket sales. The crowd is always great each year and it's a really fun weekend. Everyone I've talked to who went always left happy! (Especially if you make it to some of the afterparties!)

Think for a second about what you are saying:

1.7 million is nearly twice the current population of the city of Detroit. At its peak in the 1950's, Detroit was home to less than 2 million people.

(Not the metro area, mind you, but the city itself)

Or consider this:

Record attendance for Jazzfest, which has been going on in New Orleans for nearly 40 years, was somewhere just north of half a million and that festival goes on for two weeks.

Did you mean "sales" instead of "attendance"? Even so, I'm not sure those numbers are correct.

signal wrote:Think for a second about what you are saying:

1.7 million is nearly twice the current population of the city of Detroit. At its peak in the 1950's, Detroit was home to less than 2 million people.

(Not the metro area, mind you, but the city itself)

Or consider this:

Record attendance for Jazzfest, which has been going on in New Orleans for nearly 40 years, was somewhere just north of half a million and that festival goes on for two weeks.

Did you mean "sales" instead of "attendance"? Even so, I'm not sure those numbers are correct.

The first 5 or so years were free.

You do know there is this thing called travel where people get in a form of transportation such as a plane, bus, train, or even their own automobile and go to another city. They might even go to a city just because there's a major event going on and it's free.