Compression or EQ first - which one is more betterer?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Post by sunrahrahrah » Sun May 25, 2008 7:48 am

[/quote]lol! Great comeback :lol:[/quote]


its true, that was class

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Post by landrvr1 » Sun May 25, 2008 3:14 pm

Machinate wrote:
Zimovane wrote:
Zimovane - Do me a favor and take some of these, then come back and edit your post. thanks in advance...
Will do.

I shall start a topic asking everyone the best way to do it.
lol! Great comeback :lol:

Not really. I believe the 'thousand monkies at a thousand typewriters' theory applies here. In more ways than one, actually.

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Post by Zimovane » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:29 am

Your posts thus far have been little more than splashes from the kiddie pool
Absolutely. I'd hate to create waves. It'd only upset the turd in the middle of the pool.

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Post by Zimovane » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:57 am

Not really. I believe the 'thousand monkies at a thousand typewriters' theory applies here. In more ways than one, actually.
Landrvr.

Your retorts smell of weak urine being pumped into the anals of society.

Please, carry on.

We like entertainment.

You're good for it.

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Post by suburbanbather » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:05 am

Jesus God Almighty! some of you people are unbelievable. Either post something helpful like the FIRST! few posters or STFU. FIRST of all, you must be FIRST! to respond. Second, if you're not FIRST! you must be actually be helpful. There's always been a lot of shitty music being put out by both mainstream and underground labels. So you either better be FIRST!, SHUT THE FUCK UP! or be helpful.






















Its completely painless to switch the order of FX in Live. Please try both FIRST, before deciding to render and be done with it.

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Post by Zimovane » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:18 am

Jesus God Almighty! some of you people are unbelievable. Either post something helpful like the FIRST! few posters or STFU. FIRST of all, you must be FIRST! to respond. Second, if you're not FIRST! you must be actually be helpful. There's always been a lot of shitty music being put out by both mainstream and underground labels. So you either better be FIRST!, SHUT THE FUCK UP! or be helpful.
I spy with my lower eye, something beginning with:

CONTRADICTION.

Congratulations for using approx' 13k joules of energy via your fingertips to enlighten us that you're the FIRST....plonker.

If posts like this reel you in that easily, imagine what we could do for your life....

Just being helpful.

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Post by suburbanbather » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:53 am

Zimovane wrote:
Jesus God Almighty! some of you people are unbelievable. Either post something helpful like the FIRST! few posters or STFU. FIRST of all, you must be FIRST! to respond. Second, if you're not FIRST! you must be actually be helpful. There's always been a lot of shitty music being put out by both mainstream and underground labels. So you either better be FIRST!, SHUT THE FUCK UP! or be helpful.
I spy with my lower eye, something beginning with:

CONTRADICTION.

Congratulations for using approx' 13k joules of energy via your fingertips to enlighten us that you're the FIRST....plonker.

If posts like this reel you in that easily, imagine what we could do for your life....

Just being helpful.
Congrats on being the FIRST to respond to my pointless post. You recieve FIRST prize for absurd rebuttal.

morerecords

Post by morerecords » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:54 am

In the 60's for records the Who made (some of the most innovative engineering from the era IMO) the convention was EQ first then compress

Sane in the 70's, ,Steve Miller or Bob marley etc..

Nowadays, Jay z and Brittany spears type-enigneers use a different approach:

EQ, compress, EQ. The first EQ is for removing any harsh frequencies as well as tusing high and low pass filtering or "frequency staging," essentially preparing the sound to get squashed to high hell-

which in turn alters the given audio's spectral response, and so you eq once more, for tailoring, and then so your sylistic EQ moves and "rule of thumb" moves too. Stuff like "always add 1 0r maybe 1.5 db at 1.5khz for snares, claps get a little at 6-8khz, hats between 10-12 k etc etc...

There's no actual "rulebook" there are only conventions and style that suit the era.
hope that helps

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Post by Zimovane » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:36 am

Congrats on being the FIRST to respond to my pointless post. You recieve FIRST prize for absurd rebuttal.
As always, my pleasure.

If your post was that pointless, and my post was pointing out that your post was a contradiction, who stands to gain from this?

Well, of course, it's me, because you just contradicted your post.

Ever feel like you're losing ground here?

No worries, man. The bible told me to do it.

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Post by suburbanbather » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:01 pm

Zimovane wrote:
Ever feel like you're losing ground here?
No, just having some fun :P

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Post by NapalmBob » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:34 pm

morerecords wrote:EQ, compress, EQ. The first EQ is for removing any harsh frequencies as well as tusing high and low pass filtering or "frequency staging," essentially preparing the sound to get squashed to high hell-

which in turn alters the given audio's spectral response, and so you eq once more, for tailoring, and then so your sylistic EQ moves and "rule of thumb" moves too. Stuff like "always add 1 0r maybe 1.5 db at 1.5khz for snares, claps get a little at 6-8khz, hats between 10-12 k etc etc...

There's no actual "rulebook" there are only conventions and style that suit the era.
hope that helps
Dammit man, you beat me to it. Nice post though.

morerecords

Post by morerecords » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:39 pm

Thanks! Glad I could help

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