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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:27 pm
by agargara
kaffein wrote:From wikipedia:
Nicolai plays with the rules of physicality. Sound is changed and evolved into time and space and transformed by looping oscillators and tone generators. Through these processes the essence of pure electricity is made audible. He works without sequencers, but mathematically edits his work to give his compositions precise rhythmic structures. Clicks and glitches are not used as ornamental additions to the compositions but make up the essential elements of the work and these sound sources are applied to the rhythmic groove of Hip-Hop and R&B. The sounds of electronic information transmission such as fax tones, modem sounds and telephone pops and clicks are sampled and organised into loops to which Nicolai adds longer electronic tones in the background and foreground as the piece progresses.
Insen and Vrioon are two of my favorite albums, but that is still one of the most hilariously pretentious pieces of bs I have ever read. It's enjoyable music with beeps and clicks, not the "essence of pure electricity." Get over yourself.
On topic, though...I too have been wondering the best ways to get good beeps and clicks, although lately I prefer the glitchy clicks that mum gets in songs like "smell memory" to Alva Noto. Exper's suggestion of using the gate tool has worked fairly well. Unfortunately I'm too poor right now to upgrade to Live 7 so I can't try out slice to midi.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:34 pm
by Idonotlikebroccoli
SimonPHC wrote:He is known to use things like
SoundHack and
Max/MSP. In Soundhack you can read any file as a .wav or .aiff. Some of his albums are made out of found data read as sound, like the Trans series and his last Unitxt. Some have been made with found sound that is then treated as if it where pictures, most notably on the album Xerrox vol. 1
Is there anything similar to soundhack for windows xp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:53 pm
by telekom
I love Revep, the Insen DVD is pretty good altho the audience are a bit too intrusive when they keep standing up.
Saw CN live a couple of times, both times amazing and pretty loud. Those clicks go right through you and the bass hits make your kidneys shake.
I too have found Gate to be useful for glitchy sounds. But usually I take very short samples and isolate them, boost them, EQ them and sequence them. I like experimenting with that sort of stuff. Give it a go...
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:49 pm
by Lux Libra
Yep, Raster Noton and Nicolai, Bretschneider, Bender & co. are awesome artists.
I also really love the Alva Noto stuff with Sakamoto - wonderful. Sadly i've never
had the chance to see them Live.
Anyone dig the "Signal" album from the Raster founders mentioned above ?
Never thought that they would rock so banging minimalistic techno again. Yeah !
As for the production techniques. Open all kind of files (excel, pdf, jpg, txt, etc...)
with an audio editor which allows to import them in RAW mode (Soundforge does it as Audacity and some others).
You get awesome Bleeps, Noises, Zirrps, an other wonderful material for micro music. Clean, harsh, ..... Raster Noton style.
Nicola does it too, as the others...
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:23 pm
by Lux Libra
i'm watching the INSEN LIVE DVD at the moment (finally) and it's superb.
Haven't known that sakamoto is doing some freestyle piano manipulation / drumming on there.
big respect for these guys!
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:33 pm
by sans soleil
i played with the raster guys last year here in toronto...from what i remember, they were using live, along with quartz composer for the visuals.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:39 pm
by kaffein
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:46 pm
by Lux Libra
sans soleil wrote:i played with the raster guys last year here in toronto...from what i remember, they were using live, along with quartz composer for the visuals.
interesting. is there a similar visual programming application for PC - besides Jitter ?
will check your tunes
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:29 pm
by sans soleil
m:o wrote:
interesting. is there a similar visual programming application for PC - besides Jitter ?
quartz is a mac-only thing, but i think you can use processing, which is somewhat similar:
http://www.processing.org/
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:15 pm
by fatrabbit
sans soleil wrote:m:o wrote:
interesting. is there a similar visual programming application for PC - besides Jitter ?
quartz is a mac-only thing, but i think you can use processing, which is somewhat similar:
http://www.processing.org/
I believe Quartz is a modular program... a bit like Max, Reaktor or Plogue Bidule where you connect things with wires. Processing is all code. It's really great once you start getting the hang of it though!
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:33 pm
by Lux Libra
ok, i've been thru a decision....
since a few weeks i think about building a hackintosh on my second pc. just for fun - until now...
having a second machine running Quartz Composer for visual stuff together with Live and the
Hardware on the other, makes me horny like a young dog....
i'll start and see if i can land the ship.
i know, some of you might have experienced problems and instabilities with hackintoshs, but i want the challenge.
let's see...
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:58 pm
by atom heart
I know stupid question ...but anybody knows hw to recreate these "electricity sounds" e.g like when pluging in a false-problematic input jack.I know you could simply record these sound but I m trying to recreate them from scratch!
Re: Alva Noto sound design?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:49 pm
by swishniak
search forum for "glitch"
one of my favorite techniques is to add some distortion or bit reduction to any signal, than put a really fast gate on it, which only gets triggered by a couple peaks.
Re: Alva Noto sound design?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:53 pm
by Nick the Zombie
swishniak wrote:search forum for "glitch"
one of my favorite techniques is to add some distortion or bit reduction to any signal, than put a really fast gate on it, which only gets triggered by a couple peaks.
+1 here, most of the glitchy sound elements I create are some variation of this, generally using field recordings as the source signal.
Re: Alva Noto sound design?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:58 pm
by atom heart
field recordings???