Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Tone Deft
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by Tone Deft » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:49 pm
andydes wrote:pepezabala wrote:I want an announcement of the outcome of the cycling74/ableton collaboration.
I can tell you what the collaboration is all about:
They all get together once every 2 months and go on a big team building outing. Sometimes go-karting, sometimes paintball. Afterwards they go for a nice meal and have a chat about what they can do with their software.
Over some tapas a few months ago, Ableton asked Cycling if they had any hot tips for Live 8. Cycling suggested a vocorder, then the next round of drinks showed up and the conversation turned to what club they were all heading to.
agreed. and then they can call it a "business lunch" and write it all off on their taxes, 'cause they made BANK last year.
seriously, wtf is up with announcing this shit over a year ago and not doing a goddamn thing about it? I've never seen a bullshit move like that before. it's not like C74 didn't know the max5 release and subsequent bug fixes wouldn't take them most of '07 and '08.
me? jaded? nah...
I heard that Krispy Kream is collaborating with Larry Flynt to make a chain of topless donut shops.
psych!
thanks.

In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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Meef Chaloin
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by Meef Chaloin » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:57 pm
Tone Deft wrote:
I heard that Krispy Kream is collaborating with Larry Flynt to make a chain of topless donut shops.
psych!
thanks.

lets hope the girls are tastier than the donuts. probably be just as artificial
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heavensdaw
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by heavensdaw » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:59 pm
Tone Deft wrote: they can call it a "business lunch" and write it all off on their taxes, 'cause they made BANK last year.
Oh .. For a decent job!
Hd
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abort
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by abort » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:46 pm
landrvr1 wrote:Running 8 Beta now, bitches.....and it's everything you could possibly imagine and more. ...
Yes, Its all we ever wanted, and more.

just keep following the light, everythings going to be alright, everyone is their waiting for you even the ableton team.
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condra
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by condra » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:00 pm
Very early to be speculating about Penis Suite.
Public beta probably not till around October.
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abort
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by abort » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:54 pm
Yeah I know! I'm just kidding around, god!?
no really I got ableton 10.0 at home!? hahaah ....come on.
On the side note too, is that I really don't care as long as things work the way they should, more importantly what I create using the soft / hardware is much more rewarding than what version i'm on when creating it.
You know what I mean?
What would be more inspiring is if I had a whole day or two using one of my favorite band's studio.
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andydes
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by andydes » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:31 pm
abort wrote:what I create using the soft / hardware is much more rewarding than what version i'm on when creating it.
You know what I mean?
mmm, yeah, sometimes.
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nbinder
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by nbinder » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:45 pm
Corn Swabler wrote:nbinder wrote:?!? (why do you have to bash him?)
Guess it will come in the end of 2008. They released a version every year and I think they will keep that tradition (2008->v8 is cool).
WHY? BECAUSE 7 IS A BLOATED, GLITCHY SQUIRREL. FORK 8
Perhaps v8 will go a completely different way? The C74 collaboration thing... maybe a big part of the audio engine will come from C74? I do agree that I don't need a new version until this one works, but as the Ableton guys released a version every year the speculation is justified in my eyes.
Corn Swabler wrote:nbinder wrote:(2008->v8 is cool).
I MISSED THIS GEM. FUNCTIONING SOFTWARE IS WHAT'S COOL. (bleep)
You missed my point. I don't say that _I_ need to have a v8 this year, but maybe the Ableton guys are planning one jsut to follow the scheme.
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nbinder
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by nbinder » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:49 pm
Nod wrote:Now if the sum total, which I imagine it won't be, is a vocoder (1940's tech) and some fantastic C74 gray boxes with smaller gray boxes in them that 3 fanboi's can OSC over then great - meanwhile the wider userbase will still be requesting the above list...
Maybe the collaboration means that you will be able to create your own instruments with Ableton Lookalike Interfaces in MAX and directly use them in Ableton. Then you could do your vocoder yourself and so much more.
However I agree that there are a lot of other things (128, grouping, ...) that should be done.
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abort
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by abort » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:08 pm
Nod wrote:Now if the sum total, which I imagine it won't be, is a vocoder (1940's tech) and some fantastic C74 gray boxes with smaller gray boxes in them that 3 fanboi's can OSC over then great - meanwhile the wider userbase will still be requesting the above list...
Wtf do you mean by this? Down that shit! ...if you "pro" let us know so we can treat you like one. oops sorry maybe I was reading that wronge

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Nod
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by Nod » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:41 pm
nbinder wrote: Maybe the collaboration means that you will be able to create your own instruments with Ableton Lookalike Interfaces in MAX and directly use them in Ableton. Then you could do your vocoder yourself and so much more. However I agree that there are a lot of other things (128, grouping, ...) that should be done.
Yep - admittedly that concept sounds cool but, imho, there's a definitely a whole bunch of outstanding stuff needing attention before opening any more cans of worms and I hope the Abe's take care of it before moving on.
abort wrote: Wtf do you mean by this? Down that shit! ...if you "pro" let us know so we can treat you like one. oops sorry maybe I was reading that wronge

LOL

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jonny72
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by jonny72 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:47 am
Nod wrote:nbinder wrote: Maybe the collaboration means that you will be able to create your own instruments with Ableton Lookalike Interfaces in MAX and directly use them in Ableton. Then you could do your vocoder yourself and so much more. However I agree that there are a lot of other things (128, grouping, ...) that should be done.
Yep - admittedly that concept sounds cool but, imho, there's a definitely a whole bunch of outstanding stuff needing attention before opening any more cans of worms and I hope the Abe's take care of it before moving on.
Except Ableton need the income that a new version generates, simply addressing outstanding stuff doesn't really qualify as a new version or at least not one people are willing to pay for. There has to be a fine balance between the two, but something that is going to generate more income will always win the day.
I expect v8 will open various new cans whilst closing only a few.
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leedsquietman
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by leedsquietman » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:25 am
I wish speculation threads on the next release wouldn't happen, it just gives the company the idea that they can just release anything they want at any time and that we will all come drooling for a higher number regardless of whether it works or contains features worth upgrading to, like mindless zombies - bigger number = better, gotta have it, gotta have it NOW.
Fix Live 7 first fer chrissakes ! And if we don't get an annual release in September-Dec of 2008 and have to wait a while longer, i say GREAT !
(even though I love the Abes and Live 7 is awesome for me)
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timothyallan
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by timothyallan » Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:37 am
I heard it will be two versions this time around.
Live Studio and Live Live.
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Meef Chaloin
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by Meef Chaloin » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:51 am
leedsquietman wrote:I wish speculation threads on the next release wouldn't happen, it just gives the company the idea that they can just release anything they want at any time and that we will all come drooling for a higher number regardless of whether it works or contains features worth upgrading to, like mindless zombies - bigger number = better, gotta have it, gotta have it NOW.
im not number chasing, im only using Live 6 so ive been waiting a while