Ableton 8 for debian/ubuntu?

[adventurepants_]

Right. So, well, please direct me to the stable, supported linux drivers for my audio hardware. There already is one proper OS, and that's OSX.

oh god the fanboys are all agitated again. "put down the plastic on the couches ma!"

[aleme]

a quote form the debian site:

Most software costs over 100 US dollars. How can you give it away?

A better question is how do software companies get away with charging so much? Software is not like making a car. Once you've made one copy of your software, the production costs to make a million more are tiny (there's a good reason Microsoft has so many billions in the bank). end of quote

IMHO ableton will never support linux.

btw xp runs flawlessly all the way if you configure it right. but i know where you coming from, dj grobe.

i would also like to see more companies to support linux. but that´s a dream. we should hope that microshit and apple go into bankruptcy, then the chances are grat.

maybe another 10 years?

[blank]

I just want them to fix the 7, I really don't care about a linux port.

I use both osx and windows xp and both are running pretty well without any fuckup.

I really don't have any glitches, maybe you should check your headphone jack

[noisetonepause]

a quote form the debian site:

Most software costs over 100 US dollars. How can you give it away?

A better question is how do software companies get away with charging so much? Software is not like making a car. Once you've made one copy of your software, the production costs to make a million more are tiny (there's a good reason Microsoft has so many billions in the bank). end of quote

IMHO ableton will never support linux.

btw xp runs flawlessly all the way if you configure it right. but i know where you coming from, dj grobe.

i would also like to see more companies to support linux. but that´s a dream. we should hope that microshit and apple go into bankruptcy, then the chances are grat.

maybe another 10 years?

You're getting things mixed up.

1) Lots of people make lots of money by charging for support and systems integration instead of the software. That's what the Debian people are referring to. Ableton couldn't (realistically) be one of those companies

2) Lots of people (probably fewer) make lots of money (though comparatively less) by selling software that runs on free operating systems. They just sell specialised software that you probably don't know about. Ableton could be one of those, although selling specialised software that you would know about...

[aburgener]

Here's how to make a rock-solid Windows DAW:

1. Format hard drive
2. Reinstall Windows (From a legit copy)
3. Update Windows completely (DO NOT go to any website other than windowsupdate.microsoft.com)
4. Install all drivers, making sure all hardware is compatible (Only go to hardware manufacturers' websites if you need drivers, do not use a search engine)
5. Install Live (A legit copy)
6. Install any other applications you need. (NO BETAS OR PIRATED SOFTWARE)
7. Create a backup of the drive using your favorite software. Store in a safe place.
8. Take the network card out of the computer and never put it on the internet again.

dude, yes. my thoughts exactly.

[blank]

Here's how to make a rock-solid Windows DAW:

1. Format hard drive
2. Reinstall Windows (From a legit copy)
3. Update Windows completely (DO NOT go to any website other than windowsupdate.microsoft.com)
4. Install all drivers, making sure all hardware is compatible (Only go to hardware manufacturers' websites if you need drivers, do not use a search engine)
5. Install Live (A legit copy)
6. Install any other applications you need. (NO BETAS OR PIRATED SOFTWARE)
7. Create a backup of the drive using your favorite software. Store in a safe place.
8. Take the network card out of the computer and never put it on the internet again.

dude, yes. my thoughts exactly.

My daw is networked since a long time, pretty useful to transfer a huge project or to simply update all my software. I never had a single trouble and I don't run any anti-malware ( of course ) on the daw. I think removing the network from a computer only protect you from yourself, there is nothing malicious on the ableton website. I don't know what you are doing on your network but I suggest you to disable javascript when you browse in thumbnails gallery site.

Instead of updating windows on windows update , this is prolly better to only select the useful patches for your setup and to integrate it first with a software like nlite, updating windows could be a source of heavy headhaches when things go wrong. An install without updates is imo the way to go.

[Martyn]

Here's how to make a rock-solid Windows DAW:
8. Take the network card out of the computer and never put it on the internet again.

Bullshit.

Should say "8. Have the ability to use a computer and a little common sense"

I've been running this (XP) system for nearly 6 years now without a single OS reinstall, it runs as fast as it always has because I know how to clear junk files occasionally. I've never had a virus or a single malware/trojan problem in all that time and It's on the net all the time it's switched on through a good hardware router.

@ the OP, I also run dual with Ubuntu, I'd love to see Live running on it. For a growing number of people Linux is simply normality.

[Mesmer]

Here's how to make a rock-solid Windows DAW:
8. Take the network card out of the computer and never put it on the internet again.

Bullshit.

Should say "8. Have the ability to use a computer and a little common sense"

I've been running this (XP) system for nearly 6 years now without a single OS reinstall, it runs as fast as it always has because I know how to clear junk files occasionally. I've never had a virus or a single malware/trojan problem in all that time and It's on the net all the time it's switched on through a good hardware router.

Your computer is already infected;
most probably another spambot node.

[Mesmer]

DJ-Grobe, I'm with you.

it can't be *that* difficult, cosidering they already have a stable BSD codebase. Besides, ableton could really break new ground here being the first of the major DAWs to support Linux.

all the naysayers and haters can suck it, because you're just as likely to say "damn, this is good" as soon as you taste it. It just *has* to become a trend for you to actually try it out, and consider in all seriousness it's benefits.

here's to you Grobe:
+1



peace
-h

[gomi]

Port ableton OSX version to debian distro not is absolut hard like you think mr adventurepants_, anyway,.... yes i know that rest time and mantain 3 OS versions of ableton live can be really more hard and that can be the major reason for no make this..........i think......

you should offer your programming services to port CoreAudio, CoreMidi and CoreVideo over to whatever flavour of debian is popular this month..

then port it again later when they change everything..



http://developer.apple.com/audio/overview.html

This is why OSX works.

[duluxdog]

I'd like to try it on Linux, though I won't hold my breath. Honestly, my XP box flies at the moment - avoid pirated softeware and stay on the mainstream porn sites like pornhub.com and redtube.com so no viruses are contracted. Internet AIDS will mess up your shit.

[abort]

Linux ...the dam alsa drivers suck! I think linux needs to do away with alsa and oss. and get another way to route audio all together. Wouldn't Ableton lose a shit load of money to port their program? Linux should come up with decent audio production tools on there own, I bet it would look better gui wise?

I'm not talking about rosegarden. What happened to Energy XT ?

[Martyn]

Your computer is already infected;
most probably another spambot node.

My computer is definitely not infected you stupid arse.

What a prick

[Mesmer]

Your computer is already infected;
most probably another spambot node.

My computer is definitely not infected you stupid arse.

What a prick

It's obvious you wouldn't know;
very well, carry on.

[Martyn]

Your computer is already infected;
most probably another spambot node.

Something shitty

It's obvious you wouldn't know;
very well, carry on.

Firstly, apologies for lashing out like that, hard day at work and REALLY shit neighbours! Sorry mate, caught me on a wrongun.

Of course it wouldn't be obvious, that's why I run such a tight firewall. Even if a single *.dll gets altered in this system I know about it, I'm aware of anything at all that either tries to get into my system or more importantly, tries to transmit from it. I've periodically run rootkit detection software and usually deploy Hijack-This just to check that nothing's compromised me. I run Firefox and NoScript for the web stuff and Thunderbird for an email client, they take care of most web based nasties. I've had the odd scare but nothing I couldn't take care of easily. I'm pretty certain that I'm running a very clean machine.

Ironically, most of the botnets tend to sit on servers actually running linux, mainly because of the obscene length of their uptime. Some of the most infected systems are the big ISPs,

Out of interest, how come you know so much about it? I know a LOT of PC users and also a LOT of mac users. All the PC guys that know what they're doing know their systems inside out. They built the machines themselves, hacked the shit bits out of XP and beat it into good running condition. When they get a fault they fix it themselves without a second thought. Most (not all) of the mac guys actually call one of the pc guys to help them fix their machine when it breaks, which seems to be more frequent than most would have you believe. Either that or they take it to the mac shop and pay 100 quid or so for the special man behind the counter to fix it. My brother runs a G5, Logic etc, paid £300.00 to get his fucking motherboard battery replaced!!! I have a first time mortgage in Cornwall (where I grew up) in the uk which is second-home-heaven for the rich at the moment, I run a PC cos music is my hobby and I'd have to give it up if I didn't.

Believe me I'm no fan of Microsoft, I think it's about time we had a third option that doesn't centralise around one huge American corporation for development.

Linux is a great OS, Live will probably never be ported to it, some new Audio app will probably come from the Linux camp at some point, and if it's allows me to make the music I want to make, I'll ditch Ableton Live in a heartbeat and never have to get talked down to by a mac zealot again

Cheers mate, sorry once again for the insult.