Did Live make Recycle slightly useless?

Lazos · Post by **Lazos** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:50 pm

EgAD, I realized that you were directing your comment more at leedsquietman's comment. It's all good.
My style is probably sort of an experimental electro-acoustic middle-eastern industrial hookah music thing. Or whatever anyone else wants to call it.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:46 pm

If you have DirecTV you still need to have a land line but really the need for a land line has become redundant, really

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:04 pm

I was being ironic/sarcastic !

I make music in many time signatures too, hence being delighted at automated timing signatures in Live 7.

However, Live is perceived as a house or tarnce DJ tool by many (and to be fair, this is partially true in my experience in and out of this forum), so thought I'd do a bit of gratuitous stereotyping.

It must be the British in me, because we're miserable B's we love sarcastic and ironic black humour. This is why Blackadder was so popular !

andrewbrewer · Post by **andrewbrewer** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:16 pm

leedsquietman wrote:a lot of Live users do everything heavily quantized on a straight 4/4 beat, so the Live slicing works just great for them. All the house and tarnce people for a start ...

Anyone with more visions of creativity other than kick on 1,2,3,4 and snare on 2 and 4 would probably need to look elsewhere.

hmmm ... dont know if i speak for the rest but i do a lot of "un-quantizing" ... either recording live midi parts or pencil-ing in a beat and individually alt+dragging every hit to sound a little off. also, plenty of (ab)use of follow actions on the same beat, with just slightly different timing, to make it sound a little loose the whole time. and after all this, i would hope that someone hears it and thinks "house", or maybe "late 80's house" ... :-}

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:18 am

i love what everbody is doing so nothing against house here, i'm just trying to get out of using live for most stuff and using the mpc for drums all the time or drumlike sampling. no there is nothing wrong with the mpc at all, and yes i think that using several approaches to music at once is probably the best approach at least for me personally but, alot of times I want to just use Live and it just has some strange shortcommings when it comes to the simple ole sample slice and trigger stuff we love to bash

of course live is not an mpc, but i want it to feel like an mpc when its just me live a drumpad controller and a stack of vinyL

Lazos · Post by **Lazos** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:05 am

I agree doing it one way for awhile can get very stale. I just played with an MPC for the first time the other day and it did seem intuitive in a way would take me away from the way I do it in Live. If I had tons of slicing to do (used loops as my main sound material for samplers), I'd probably get Phatmatik or Recycle. The MPC (?) Too bad I can't backpack with one in Europe this fall, dammit!

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:47 am

oh yes you can, thinking about going with a mpc 500, kaossilator and mini kp myself for a super light super right travel rig. all of them can run off batteries and the mpc 500 will last for about 5 hours so they say. add to that a good stack of vinyl on flashcard and the only thing i'd miss is the turntables.

Lazos · Post by **Lazos** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:35 am

EgAD wrote:oh yes you can, thinking about going with a mpc 500, kaossilator and mini kp myself for a super light super right travel rig. all of them can run off batteries and the mpc 500 will last for about 5 hours so they say. add to that a good stack of vinyl on flashcard and the only thing i'd miss is the turntables.

Sounds great! That's cool that they can be run from batteries. I'm going to have two acoustic instruments to bring plus a laptop, interface and foot controller, so an MPC would be just too much.