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i sent it back and bought the ecler evo5 and i think its safe to say that it is one of the best purchases i have ever made.i take that back .

Being a 3d owner, the 4d looks like the same controller and is an erganomic disappointment. I have no use for the giant circular knobs in ableton and I would have loved to see them replace the pair with more knobs like the top of the mixer. Wouldn't be able to upgrade if I wanted to, but it would have been nicer for them to have done a complete redesign for a first generation product.

try using the jog wheels for the chain selector in racks. nice for morphing FX.

Hi Dougie,

Saw your videos on Youtube a while ago, whilst I was waiting months for my 4D to turn up. Now I've finally got it, I have a couple of queries:

1) I had heard that A&H supply a basic Ableton template, with an initial set of MIDI assignments set up - rather than having to start from scratch. Have you seen such a file ? Or was that just for the 3D ?

2) Similarly, I've also read about Ableton overlays for the MIDI buttons. Were these just a feature of the 3D too ? Or just something promised and not delivered.

3) General query: Anyone know how to assign the jog wheels to select a specific clip to play (ie. one wheel selects row, the other column). I have no problems assigning MIDI controls using the overlay - I've used Faderfoxes for some time - btut I don't know what controls select scene/track/clip dynamically.

Cheers.

1.) no disk with the 4d? i think you can download the 3D .als file from A&H's web site.. maybe it'll work


2.) the overlays are ugly anyway..

3.) there is a scene up down selector, but choosing tracks is trickier. something like midi translator might help you.

so anyway why should i get the 4d?
what is the difference to the 3d?

i can´t get the point why this hardware should be that much better?

cheers

not sure really other then having 2X midi controls via some kind of shift feature

i prefer to not switch my controller tho .. i like everything on one page.

honestly i havnt looked at the 4D

the 3D is not going to be for everyone, but im happy with mine. i think mostly because i still play records.

i'v had it since they released it.

So what's up now in 2009, you lucky 4D users?

I'd like to hear your feedback about using the 4D's midi implementation with live,

and any comment about it's pro's and con's...

I'm selling all my old gear to get a 4D... call me fool

cheers

john gordon wrote:i sent it back and bought the ecler evo5 and i think its safe to say that it is one of the best purchases i have ever made.i take that back .

Can you tell me how you like the Evo5? I am looking at one.