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Rave wrote:I am hoping for Eucon support. If they don't deliver I will upgrade to cubase 4 to do my mixdowns.

There's the problem isn't it?
Support this, support that...
The only MIDI improvement we've seen since Novation introduced automap is.. is... ehrm... hold on.... ehm...is... is...

Bugger it! What I'm trying to say is that Ableton needs to STOP supporting ever damn controller. Maybe they'll realize that having 8 macros per Rack is almost retarded. Maybe they'll realize they just wasted 2 valuable years to the sweet words of a company who slapped a bunch of feature requests into one controller that comes with drivers that fuck up your computer. Almost makes me wish they partnered up with M-Audio again.

Anyway, no offense to you mate. But your controller being supported wont fix your problems. Ask anybody here with a supported controller what it does for them.. "I don't have to map the first 8 volume sliders... Weeee!"

hoffman2k wrote: There's the problem isn't it?
Support this, support that...
The only MIDI improvement we've seen since Novation introduced automap is.. is... ehrm... hold on.... ehm...is... is...

Bugger it! What I'm trying to say is that Ableton needs to STOP supporting ever damn controller. Maybe they'll realize that having 8 macros per Rack is almost retarded. Maybe they'll realize they just wasted 2 valuable years to the sweet words of a company who slapped a bunch of feature requests into one controller that comes with drivers that fuck up your computer. Almost makes me wish they partnered up with M-Audio again.

Anyway, no offense to you mate. But your controller being supported wont fix your problems. Ask anybody here with a supported controller what it does for them.. "I don't have to map the first 8 volume sliders... Weeee!"

Spot on m8

Hd

Rave wrote:

hoffman2k wrote:

Rave wrote:I am hoping for Eucon support. If they don't deliver I will upgrade to cubase 4 to do my mixdowns.

There's the problem isn't it?
Support this, support that...
The only MIDI improvement we've seen since Novation introduced automap is.. is... ehrm... hold on.... ehm...is... is...

Bugger it! What I'm trying to say is that Ableton needs to STOP supporting ever damn controller. Maybe they'll realize that having 8 macros per Rack is almost retarded. Maybe they'll realize they just wasted 2 valuable years to the sweet words of a company who slapped a bunch of feature requests into one controller that comes with drivers that fuck up your computer. Almost makes me wish they partnered up with M-Audio again.

Anyway, no offense to you mate. But your controller being supported wont fix your problems. Ask anybody here with a supported controller what it does for them.. "I don't have to map the first 8 volume sliders... Weeee!"

It's all good fella. Tis just a wish

I am pretty happy with the feature set of live. I don't mind switching DAWS if I have too.

I'm not sure if this is common knowledge, but here it goes.

You can:

A) Change the parameter numbers on your controller to match those of a controller thats already supported. In the end, your supported map will just have a different name and different CC's. Takes about 10-30 minutes depending on how easy it is to program your controller.

B) You can make your own MIDI map. Its really easy to do, you only need to enter a few numbers in a text file. I was going to give you a link to where its all explained, but it looks like Ableton removed the Live 6 beta section where this was a sticky. Its officially unsupported and its not even mentioned in the manual.
I'll try to dig up the resource, maybe google still has it cached somewhere.
This method will allow you (or any other user of your type of controller) to make your own custom MIDI map. This also takes less than 30 minutes to do.

Anyway. Thats as far as automapping controllers goes.
Support for a full euphonix desk could mean there is actually some improvement in what other users can map. But since it uses its own protocol (Eucon), it means it would only be useful with a bunch of hacks. Like with Mackie.
Ableton's current definition of a supported controller would only allow you to use about 1/4th of a full desk.

I'll upgrade to the next live generation, only if it's a real new gen.

I don't want of a new unfisnished stuff, like live 8.0.1, with the '.0.1' meaning you'll dying before getting something really matured and 100% working.


when the new release has a new name, like, for instance, Ableton Live PRO, or Live XT, or Live GS, but I don't want any number, or that's ok if only they make a real difference, like, say, between a MPC 1000 and a MPC 4000...

I'm good with live 6.10. when I'll buy something, that will be hardware, like a RS7000, a lemur...


but I know everyone doesn't mind my words

so let's go live 8, but without me

monstrejumo wrote:I'll upgrade to the next live generation, only if it's a real new gen.

I don't want of a new unfisnished stuff, like live 8.0.1, with the '.0.1' meaning you'll dying before getting something really matured and 100% working.


when the new release has a new name, like, for instance, Ableton Live PRO, or Live XT, or Live GS, but I don't want any number, or that's ok if only they make a real difference, like, say, between a MPC 1000 and a MPC 4000...

I'm good with live 6.10. when I'll buy something, that will be hardware, like a RS7000, a lemur...


but I know everyone doesn't mind my words

so let's go live 8, but without me

only if it's 100% working this time around... and all issues will be addressed...
I'd upgrade...
if not...
I would be selling my 7 suite.. and buying max/msp......

one who's got balls !!

max/msp... wow you'll have some hard work to "program" a kind of live in maxmasp? get back to live 6 that's all ok !! (just the sidechaining options that could miss)

abletoff wrote:And I need another Fireface to ditch the dorky-fiddly horrible m-audio 1814 from the home rig!

+ 1

if live 8 doesn't have quantum editing and loofa groups i'm switching to master tracks pro:




now that's a sequencer.




.lm.

This is a Live 8 with a track grouping function

i actually had the mac version of that (master tracks) back in system 7 days.... It was pretty great.

.lm.

it would be good to know what the MAJOR features will be for the next major release, Version 8,

Anyone? Ableton?

Please let us know so we can start salivating

will live 8 be compatible with the Christopher Walken Clip Coloring Service?

leisuremuffin wrote:i actually had the mac version of that (master tracks) back in system 7 days.... It was pretty great.

.lm.

I actually used Mastertracks to sequence songs before I threw the tracks into Cubase until the late 90's. It was the only thing that kept me sane. Then there were the dark days when there was no version available for whatever OS Apple was on. Then somebody ported it and I quickly scooped it up and happiness returned.

yeah man. MTpro was the shit.

my second sequencer was the first digital performer. That was sick. I was so excited i could RECORD AND SEQUENCE AUDIO!



but live sucks. i can't make music without parabolic curves and animated meat curtains with groove quantize. it's totally holding me down. the abes better fix that shit in 8.





.lm.