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What also needs to be taken into consideration here is the average wage in the area. My friend lives in Ohio and pays a $700 a month mortgage on a 2 story, 5 bedroom house with a full basement. But people in the area are lucky to make $11 an hour….and there's jack shit to do.

Also regardless of where you live, a Virus T1 is still going to cost you $3,000.

gjm wrote:For a family of 5, $100K b4 tax ($6k after tax per month) will just scrape you by. Want to take a holiday, bump up the quality of education, stash some $$$ for retirement, maintain your house and property, receive some prompt non emergency medical care, choose food that avoids preservatives and flavors etc, have a hobby or two, you need at least $150K b4 tax ($8k after tax per month) and good budgeting habits.

I think what the answer from our esteemed friend from down under tells us is that when you have children, you can easily double/tripple your minimum requirements, and that's NOT including if you gotto pay for private schools or any of the fancy stuff.

Washington DC is insanely overpriced. One of the five highest in the country I think, for a reason I cannot figure out (maybe the height restriction on buildings?).

a one bedroom (where you cannot make noise) with a parking space ranges from probably 1400-2400 depending on how far away from the "cool" (which aren't that cool) areas you are. so if you have no debt and no kids, then to live alone with a decent quality of life (and save some for retirement) you probably need $75-100k before tax, depending on your standards.

Rave wrote:Check this survey out:


http://www.citymayors.com/economics/exp ... ties2.html

LOL, Dallas didn't even make that list! hahahahahahaahha

are you sure that's not also a relevance list?

nebulae wrote:

Rave wrote:Check this survey out:


http://www.citymayors.com/economics/exp ... ties2.html

LOL, Dallas didn't even make that list! hahahahahahaahha

are you sure that's not also a relevance list?

SF didn't either. I call FAIL on that list.

Renting an apartment in Barcelona can be quite expensive. To get something nice you have to pay 1000 EUR a month at least. For a room in a shared flat 400 EUR.
Commution and food are quite cheap. So if you live in a shared flat you can live your life with 1000 EUR monthly already. For some comfort 2000 EUR at least.

Hamburg
Appartement: 600-1200,- EUR or 200-400,- EUR for a room in a shared flat, this depends on the area you wanna live, *cool* or *schwul*
Food, Phones, iWebz, transportation, etc.: 400-1500,- EUR, depending on your personal standard.
So with 600 EUR you live like a bum, this is what i do... Living okay is like 1600,- in a shared flat and above 2000,- if you wanna live like one of the shiny Reeperbahn pimps....

a month, keep in mind: Hamburg is also insanely overpriced, the highest standards mentioned are those of *normal* people i know,

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Wokingham area (nr Reading) UK - 1 bed flat etc will set you back around 650UKP month. Then add that most people will probbaly spend around 100-200UKP on fuel if you fill up once a week or two for getting to/from work etc, then food - lets add another 200, Bils - add another 100.

I have a few friend who can barely afford to go out at all and they are earning around 20Kpa year.

Basically a grand take home is your border line unless you share a place - 1200 if you actually want to get out and have some fun. Its easy to blow a couple of hundred in a night around here for you and other half - food clubbing, taxis drinks etc.

For a reasonable relatively worry free life with a bit of fun regularly in an OK small house - then lets say you want to earn about 40Kpa minimum ($70Kpa for those who cant count ). Double that for central London.

From http://www.2ontario.com/welcome/coca_701.asp :

mikemc wrote: To give you an idea, in this suburb area where I work near Wash DC, you can rent a 1 bedroom 1 bath apartment for around $1500-$1600. Utilities on top of that, so to live fairly nicely you probably need to take home $3000 a month = $36000/yr take home = about $70000-75000/yr salary before taxes and other deductions = about 53000 euros.

Strange tax you've got over there.... So if you get $70000-$75000 annual salary in US before TAX you only receive $36000 after tax??

nebulae wrote:From http://www.2ontario.com/welcome/coca_701.asp :

The relatively cheap cost of living in Canada is completely offset by the insane price of alcohol. So I'm out.

dave999z wrote:a one bedroom (where you cannot make noise)

So that explains why I've never heard the perfect kick drum in DC...

spkey wrote:

mikemc wrote:
To give you an idea, in this suburb area where I work near Wash DC, you can rent a 1 bedroom 1 bath apartment for around $1500-$1600. Utilities on top of that, so to live fairly nicely you probably need to take home $3000 a month = $36000/yr take home = about $70000-75000/yr salary before taxes and other deductions = about 53000 euros.

Strange tax you've got over there.... So if you get $70000-$75000 annual salary in US before TAX you only receive $36000 after tax??

Well "take home" is after tax and other stuff, but that's about right-- there are taxes and other non-optional deductions: federal tax, state tax. medicare tax, 'social security' (BWahHAH). Those you must pay.

Then, other typical stuff: health/dental insurance, other (like life) insurance, pre-tax 'retirement fund' contribution (ha).

If your employer offers health/dental, you do it, the cost can vary.

And the retirement fund and 'other insurance' are completely optional and vary.