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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:12 pm
by nickw
you can do this kid of thing in mac os 9 too I believe by renaming the application you want to run "Finder", move the finder out of the system folder (or rename it) and plae the app you have named finder there instead.

Same caveats about the possibility of the application needing something the finder provides - try it and see, just boot to a cd and put the finder back if it doesn't work /improve things.

Never actually did it myself though.
Cheers

Nick

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:14 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Tommy Genes wrote:You know, it does now doesn't it. I kinda knew that, but I didn't really know that, if you know what I mean. :oops:
Hmmm... Now you're just confusing me. :? :) :?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:53 pm
by pentajigga
what are the advantages of this?
will the sample editor defined in your prefs still launch?

thanks

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:48 pm
by sweetjesus
Tommy Genes wrote:Though I'd resurect this thread since I've just loaded Windows XP Pro on my Live laptop.

Is there a way to set this up as a menu to chose immediately after booting?

For example:
Press 1 for full Windows XP load
Press 2 for Ableton Live as custom shell

That would make it a little easer than having to boot, run 'gpedit.msc', reboot, use Live, ctrl-alt-delete, run 'gpedit.msc', reboot.

Thanks,
-- T. G. --
If enough of you say that you would like this, I could write a little program that does this and provide you with a config menu so you can choose the path for your Live software since it changes every version.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:25 pm
by rikhyray
pentajigga wrote:what are the advantages of this?
will the sample editor defined in your prefs still launch?

thanks
Yes

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:26 pm
by rikhyray
"If enough of you say that you would like this, I could write a little program that does this and provide you with a config menu so you can choose the path for your Live software since it changes every version.[/quote]"


Please do it

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:52 pm
by sweetjesus
can everyone who will want this app give me their platform, so i can target the registry keys to the os used by the majority of people.

if you know what key your os uses for the shell, please let me know as XP home is not where dirtybomb said its key is. I have found another path which may be where the shell lies in, but I'm not game to screw up my machine finding out. (I think it's KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon with "shell" key in there) so if anyone can let me know, please do as the rest of this app is quite simple for me to deal with.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:41 pm
by dave dominey
cool stuff
id use this little app in win2k

cheers
dave

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:27 pm
by pentajigga
still wondering why anyone would want to do this... what are the performance advantages???

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:49 pm
by sweetjesus
dave dominey wrote:cool stuff
id use this little app in win2k

cheers
dave
Win2k Pro or advanced server?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:15 pm
by rikhyray
XP pro

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:29 pm
by debu_
Is there a major performance advantage to doing this?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:13 am
by Clearscreen
Yep - i'd use this. faster booting into live if things go wrong, and extra memory freed up by no 'windows explorer' - damn right i can use this!!

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:56 am
by TheUriah
maybe it would also work by setting up 2 different user profiles, one normal windows, and one with the live trick?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:58 am
by sweetjesus
TheUriah wrote:maybe it would also work by setting up 2 different user profiles, one normal windows, and one with the live trick?
i doubt it as the registry key is stored in a different area than keys for different user profiles.

User profile related stuff is in HKEY_USERS, maybe the registry swaps out the user that logs in into HKEY_CURRENT_USER

I will reasearch some more into this in the coming week.