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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:15 pm
by elxicano
Huey wrote:Obama is a Marxist. Look at his "spread the wealth" plan. Obamahood wants to penalize those who made money honestly, small business and anyone who makes more than 250k a year, so he can pay poor fucking slackers and people who don't pay taxes. Thats right.........spread the wealth you thieving fuck. Make people who worked hard pay for lazy welfare fucks who think everyone owes them for not applying themselves. Do I want a Marxist country, hell no.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's right... under his plan you wouldn't be able to update that pentium 4, right? ha ha

You're so right, the republican "trickle down" process worked so well didn't it? Things are so much better than when Clinton was in office... the past 8 year were great and our booming economy will only get better and stronger with another 4 years of republican leadership!

Ha Ha! :lol:

Its funny... rank and file type conservative wannabes are the greatest source of entertainment.

Really keep it coming.. I need to laugh more. :D

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:16 pm
by knotkranky
http://taxcut.barackobama.com/ < calculate your taxes under Obama

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:25 pm
by o0o
Huey wrote:Obama is a Marxist. Look at his "spread the wealth" plan. Obamahood wants to penalize those who made money honestly, small business and anyone who makes more than 250k a year, so he can pay poor fucking slackers and people who don't pay taxes. Thats right.........spread the wealth you thieving fuck. Make people who worked hard pay for lazy welfare fucks who think everyone owes them for not applying themselves. Do I want a Marxist country, hell no.
i bet you didn't know that the majority of people on welfare are mcCain supporters did you?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:25 pm
by robleighton22
Huey wrote:Obama is a Marxist. Look at his "spread the wealth" plan. Obamahood wants to penalize those who made money honestly, small business and anyone who makes more than 250k a year, so he can pay poor fucking slackers and people who don't pay taxes. Thats right.........spread the wealth you thieving fuck. Make people who worked hard pay for lazy welfare fucks who think everyone owes them for not applying themselves. Do I want a Marxist country, hell no.
yeh, those poor ceo's in executive jobs having to worry about their future big bonuses. just awful. capitalism is working so well at the moment as well.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:32 pm
by leisuremuffin
people who have never read any Marx are out there calling Obama a Marxist. Good times. I wish he was, bro. Seriously, If he were the radical that McCain was painting him to be I'd vote for him. He's not even close.


BTW, what's up with the Republicans constantly talking about how they are for a smaller government, and keeping the government out of the peoples lives? I mean, these are the people who have overseen the largest growth of government in our lifetimes, eroded our civil liberties, and want to legislate moral issues (abortion, stem cells, gay marriage). Fuck all that noise.

PS, the almighty "free market" hasn't turned out to work so well, has it? Let me know how great capitalism is when you're spending $200 a pound for ground horse meat and mostly eating out of cans. Because that's where shit is headed without a serious turn towards socialism.




.lm.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:34 pm
by elxicano
robleighton22 wrote:
Huey wrote:Obama is a Marxist. Look at his "spread the wealth" plan. Obamahood wants to penalize those who made money honestly, small business and anyone who makes more than 250k a year, so he can pay poor fucking slackers and people who don't pay taxes. Thats right.........spread the wealth you thieving fuck. Make people who worked hard pay for lazy welfare fucks who think everyone owes them for not applying themselves. Do I want a Marxist country, hell no.
yeh, those poor ceo's in executive jobs having to worry about their future big bonuses. just awful. capitalism is working so well at the moment as well.
Don't get it twisted... its communism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else.

It really is funny (and f*cked up) if you think about it... they don't want to give "handouts" to the poor, but they'll give handouts to the rich for doing a bad job and crashing the economy.

Such a great system... 8)

Re: help me vote for obama

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:35 pm
by nebulae
ThrowAway wrote:Im a liberal with reasons to vote republican this time but I was totally split 50/50 on mccain and obama so i was going to either vote ron paul or write in paris hilton until I read on the huffington post(as bad/unreliable/ridicoulous as obermen/orieily imo) about grimmes being mccains financial advisor. what are the chances of grimmes being in the cabinet if mccain wins? please source your info in your post...feel free to add any other source-able info if you like...this would be my tipping point to vote obama. preemptive fuck you for all the "this is a live board, not us politics board, I hate americans" hypocritical bastards)
What reasons do you have to vote republican? I'm asking honestly and not judgmentally.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:39 pm
by deva
Huey wrote:Obama is a Marxist. Look at his "spread the wealth" plan. Obamahood wants to penalize those who made money honestly, small business and anyone who makes more than 250k a year, so he can pay poor fucking slackers and people who don't pay taxes. Thats right.........spread the wealth you thieving fuck. Make people who worked hard pay for lazy welfare fucks who think everyone owes them for not applying themselves. Do I want a Marxist country, hell no.

hahahaha... great joke... uhh, you are joking right?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:52 pm
by deva
leisuremuffin wrote:people who have never read any Marx are out there calling Obama a Marxist. Good times. I wish he was, bro. Seriously, If he were the radical that McCain was painting him to be I'd vote for him. He's not even close.
quite priceless... Lots of moderate conservatives are excited about Obama cause they say he is the closest thing they have seen to Reagan since then. Which is closer to an accurate representation than most liberals have.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:56 pm
by nebulae
^ well, he's a lot like Reagan in his social positions. As for economics, he's far from the trickle down economics from the reagan era...he's closer to FDR and the New Deal.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:02 pm
by deva
o0o wrote:
Huey wrote:Obama is a Marxist. Look at his "spread the wealth" plan. Obamahood wants to penalize those who made money honestly, small business and anyone who makes more than 250k a year, so he can pay poor fucking slackers and people who don't pay taxes. Thats right.........spread the wealth you thieving fuck. Make people who worked hard pay for lazy welfare fucks who think everyone owes them for not applying themselves. Do I want a Marxist country, hell no.
i bet you didn't know that the majority of people on welfare are mcCain supporters did you?
The rich get far more welfare than the poor...

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:09 pm
by deva
nebulae wrote:^ well, he's a lot like Reagan in his social positions. As for economics, he's far from the trickle down economics from the reagan era...he's closer to FDR and the New Deal.
perhaps so... although, I think that is more rhetoric than fact. His support of the bill to bail out rich wall street execs speaks rather loudly... He had all the political capital he needed to craft a different bill.

Anyway, it is not my position that he is that close to Reagan, just that there are a surprising number of conservatives who have some thoughts in that direction and are planning on voting Obama.

Re: help me vote for obama

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:20 pm
by Tone Deft
ThrowAway wrote:preemptive fuck you for all the "this is a live board, not us politics board, I hate americans" hypocritical bastards)
seriously, isn't this the exact behavior Ableton is asking people to chill with?

it's just a poor attempt at attention whoring.

where have you been in the last year? god knows you rant endlessly about politics here and you REALLY can't decide? then you shouldn't be talking politics here, it's getting you nowhere.

still, people can only post anti-Obama while not posting pro-McCain. OK, two sides of the same coin, but which side? at this point it's a joke to think that McCain will win, the best he can hope for is a dead Obama or Diebold to rescue him.

I can't wait for this all to be over, so tired of this election...

Re: help me vote for obama

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:28 pm
by leisuremuffin
X wrote:X


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. so tranquil.




.lm.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:50 pm
by t1mp
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploaded ... ummary.pdf

hmm...

interesting little nugget:

TPC projects the McCain plan would trim the uninsured by 1 million in 2009 and nearly 5 million by 2013, although their numbers would slowly rise thereafter because the tax credit would fail to keep pace with premiums (see figure). Obama would reduce the uninsured by 18 million in 2009 and 34 million by 2018. Even under the Obama plan, however, 34 million Americans would still lack insurance in 2018.