Logic 9 out!

[Machinesworking]

@MachinesWorking

Thanks for your explanations about DP, I understand a bit more why I didn't really understand it...

In fact I don't really matter being able to have a huge set with 10 songs. (I don't really get the interest of this process, is it for live gigs?

Yeah live gigs, so you don't have 136+ tracks in the Arrangement window, or in your case loading songs on the fly with the possible problems that brings.
For instance my drummer just requested that one song we do get extended and blend with another etc. This is possible in Live, but I think to a degree DP does it a little more elegantly. <-- believe me! there are a ton of things that Live does more elegantly than DP! I plan on using both in a live situation, therefore hopefully having zero down time if we choose to play a set with no pauses.

[dom]

@ dom,

wow i have a written manual in german!
and i found something that if i mix it a bit with chinese could possibly mean what you just explained easy in a few words...
if it would not be so much text i would like to type it all on here, but seriously it's not understandable in german
(fair enough i hate german manuals anyway) please read the german manual page 203 bottom section
and consider to change into an understandable language, i seriously only got it because you where explaining it nicely and quick n' easy in english.

The reason is: this section is just not about the feature at all! Even if you mix it with chinese ;-)

Instead it is explained in chapter 15, page 220, called "recording new clips":


"Beachten Sie, dass das Starten einer Szene in der Session-Ansicht nicht auch automatisch
die Aufnahme in aufnahmebereit geschalteten Slots der betreffenden Szene aktiviert.

Sie können allerdings die Option "Aufnahme beim Starten einer Szene beginnen" auf der Aufnehmen/
Warpen/Launchen-Seite der Voreinstellungen aktivieren, falls Sie wünschen, dass
unter diesen Umständen in leeren Slots die Aufnahme gestartet werden soll."

This is really to the point, isn't it?

That's what my friendly banter "grumpy king" meant, it's not rare that you're complaining heavily about stuff just because you have not checked the details before complaining. And if you do then, you notice that the panicking beforehand was actually obsolete... which sometimes annoys me, as i know for sure you can do better - even without much effort, you just actually like being in that grumpy role sometimes! :)

And yes, written communication looks always a bit serious, but i guess you know how to judge the comments i sent you as you know me in RL.

the whole german manual is a horror anyways. it reads like a law book.

sorry to say, but it really is horrible.
but thanks again for the clarification :D

Actually, i think it is pretty good, but hey, input is always welcome!

Cheers,
Dom

[SubFunk]

"Beachten Sie, dass das Starten einer Szene in der Session-Ansicht nicht auch automatisch
die Aufnahme in aufnahmebereit geschalteten Slots der betreffenden Szene aktiviert.

Sie können allerdings die Option "Aufnahme beim Starten einer Szene beginnen" auf der Aufnehmen/
Warpen/Launchen-Seite der Voreinstellungen aktivieren, falls Sie wünschen, dass
unter diesen Umständen in leeren Slots die Aufnahme gestartet werden soll."

This is really to the point, isn't it?

if this is to the point, then i don't know the german language anymore.

in english i understood immediately....

why not saying simply by beginning with: "when es erwuenscht ist, das mehr als ein clip zeitgleich zur aufzeichnung gestarted werden soll, dann... blah blah..."

the important point i was looking for is not coming out, the syncro recording start of several clips at once...

the way the manual is written is that typical "beamten deutsch" to me, but whatever, we can argue endless it's a matter of taste...
and i admitted already that there probably isn't another language that is uglier for manuals anyways...
that by the way that is why i don't read it, unless i look for something particular like the simultaneous clip in session record start.
which then i did not found, because i simply did not understood. me stupid forgot that a in germany purchased software comes with a german manual

the rest, LOL.

you should be consequent and ban either all people who permanently choose a wrong and grumpy language or none...

but you don't you choose after sympathy

and thanks again for clearing that up with so little and easy words instead of:

"Beachten Sie, dass das Starten einer Szene in der Session-Ansicht nicht auch automatisch
die Aufnahme in aufnahmebereit geschalteten Slots der betreffenden Szene aktiviert.

Sie können allerdings die Option "Aufnahme beim Starten einer Szene beginnen" auf der Aufnehmen/
Warpen/Launchen-Seite der Voreinstellungen aktivieren, falls Sie wünschen, dass
unter diesen Umständen in leeren Slots die Aufnahme gestartet werden soll."

which is hardly understandable even after knowing how it goes.
but it works a treat.

[Atomikat]

That's the reason I don't read any manuals in Spanish...just those ones in English, they're easier to understand. I speak a very good Spanish (it's my native language) but the translators from English to Spanish for most of software... just "s*ck".

[dom]

if this is to the point, then i don't know the german language anymore.

I actually tend to believe that! :)

First, i just wanted to ask for german speaking users to chime in here, confirming that this sentence really just says what the function does, totally to the point.

But actually you can translate it to english nearly word by word Babelfish style and it's still absolutely clear!
I mean, actually only the name in the preferences should make it clear already "start recording on scene launch".

Here is my dumb word by word translation of your german manual quote:

"Please note, that starting a scene in the Session view does not automatically activate a recording in the armed slots of the selected scene.

You can however turn on the option "start recording on scene launch" on the Record/Warp/Launch Page of the Preferences, if you wish that under those circumstances a recording will be started"

Come on, you really can't tell me you don't understand that - in your native language! - or we really have to
cut down the weekend whiskies... :)


Cheers,
Dom

[SubFunk]

if this is to the point, then i don't know the german language anymore.

I actually tend to believe that!

First, i just wanted to ask for german speaking users to chime in here, confirming that this sentence really just says what the function does, totally to the point.

But actually you can translate it to english nearly word by word Babelfish style and it's still absolutely clear!
I mean, actually only the name in the preferences should make it clear already "start recording on scene launch".

Here is my dumb word by word translation of your german manual quote:

"Please note, that starting a scene in the Session view does not automatically activate a recording in the armed slots of the selected scene.

You can however turn on the option "start recording on scene launch" on the Record/Warp/Launch Page of the Preferences, if you wish that under those circumstances a recording will be started"

Come on, you really can't tell me you don't understand that - in your native language! - or we really have to
cut down the weekend whiskies...


Cheers,
Dom

nope it does not state that you can apply that to several tracks, therefor several clips at once... it only says it starts a clip recording via the scene launch button instead of the clip rec button, you explained it the way it makes sense, if you search the manual, like i did for recording multiple clips in syncro.
point is that i did not found it because i was looking for sync recording time accurate start of several recording clips... now it's understandable, but only because you used once different words!

question i needed to be answered:

how can i record sveral clips time accurate (syncro start) at once.

you said:

Preferences/record warp launch/start recording on scene launch *on* - will start recording clips in all armed tracks as soon as you trigger the scene.

that equals total sense with little words

the german manual says:

"Please note, that starting a scene in the Session view does not automatically activate a recording in the armed slots of the selected scene.

You can however turn on the option "start recording on scene launch" on the Record/Warp/Launch Page of the Preferences, if you wish that under those circumstances a recording will be started"

that equals nonsense (german law type of writing) with a hell lot of words.

or we really have to
cut down the weekend whiskies...

this has been a while...

[SubFunk]

it's an endless discussion...

i know it works, it works well, thanks one last time... for telling me, it saves time at work.
the manual in german will always be, well in stiff and un-fun german.

[SubFunk]

That's the reason I don't read any manuals in Spanish...just those ones in English, they're easier to understand. I speak a very good Spanish (it's my native language) but the translators from English to Spanish for most of software... just "s*ck".

yup. i can fully understand that... already certain single words they tried to translate into german make you sick.