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Pitch Black wrote:Thanks for testing man!

congratulations on destruction first time out of the box!


hmmmmm, perhaps access to copious quantities of RAM is not the salve for bigger sets? Was wanting to see what might happen if you could get everything pre-loaded into RAM and maybe any potential disk-access skips in unfriendly gigging conditions...

it will be interesting to see if silly RAM allows us to grow our current upper-limit Live Set that our 4y/o machine will allow, using normal disk-loaded/some RAM clips Live Set. 110 tracks/250scenes/3.2GB of clips with 3GB RAM on our machine. Hope so!

as long as the app stays 32bit, there's always danger at the 2gb boundary, and at the 4gb boundary is the obvious "not enough memory - crash - die" limit. to a lesser limit, a boundary is at the 3gb range, too.

until live is 64bit, i'd suggest you an ssd as the "fix". going from up to 15 - 20ms down to 0.065ms max accesstime fixes most disk-access skips

it looks like, for some, a 64bit version of live could be of interest by now.

fuzzyhead wrote:I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, I'm curious about the Firewire chipset in these new machines, is it TI?

Would someone who bought it just check this and report as I couldn't find any info on the net, thanks.

+1

They've been agere for ages i doubt they would have gone back

(fierwire chipset) It's not listed in the system profiler, anyone know where I'd find that info? Happy to look if someone tells me where.

Tarekith wrote:(fierwire chipset) It's not listed in the system profiler, anyone know where I'd find that info? Happy to look if someone tells me where.

Hi, if you boot up in single-user mode (link: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1492 - works for OS X 10.6 too), then you'll get a pile of log info on the screen. In there will be a line on the FireWire chipset, something like...

FireWire (OHCI) TI ID 8025

...apparently, if there's a "TI" in that line then it's a Texas Instruments chip (I think otherwise it would say "Lucent").

After that, just type "exit" to continue booting normally...

It's a Lucent chip, ID 5901.

Tarekith wrote:It's a Lucent chip, ID 5901.

...is that good or bad?

Beats me, working fine here with my Fireface400.

(Well, as good as anything will work with the Fireface400, stupid flocking lame ass RME drivers, grumble grumble)

What's wrong with the RME drivers?

I haven't had them fail ever I don't think (actually they did once).

The only thing i'd complain about with the fireface 800 is the lack of a main volume knob that's easily accessible. . .

Oh and yeah, good luck getting much more than about 2.25 gigs of system ram used by Live, it simply falls over.

i have been posting about this for ages now.

Glad to see that others are starting to find it a problem (not glad that they are having issues obviously, just glad there is more discussion about it).

The Snow Leopard drivers are just plain buggy. If you don't restart after connecting it, it can crash OSX, freeze up, refuse to respond to the volume knob. As long as I restart it's ok, but I use a laptop based system an I'm constantly grabbing it to take it elsewhere. It's like reboot central here if I'm trying to work on a project.

It's not a showstopper, just annoying. I haven't had issues like this in 7-8 years, usually all my computer gear talks nicely to each other

Tarekith wrote:The Snow Leopard drivers are just plain buggy. If you don't restart after connecting it, it can crash OSX, freeze up, refuse to respond to the volume knob. As long as I restart it's ok, but I use a laptop based system an I'm constantly grabbing it to take it elsewhere. It's like reboot central here if I'm trying to work on a project.

It's not a showstopper, just annoying. I haven't had issues like this in 7-8 years, usually all my computer gear talks nicely to each other

I've heard that you should never hot-plug ANY firewire device because it can make your FW port unusable forever - I get the same thing you described with my FW410 if I hotplug it, or sometimes if I put my laptop to sleep with it plugged in

Was even talking about this with an Ableton product specialist at the certification event and he's even seen PCs completely trashed by this and the long and short of it is ALWAYS shut down before plugging in a FW device

I used to hotplug my PCs all the time (with 4 pin FW) and don't think I had any problems, but apparently I was just lucky and will never hot-plug again, especially on the mac

shame, it is inconvenient

Yeah, guess I'm just used to the ultralite, that thing you could plug in whenever.

Hot plugging is supported by the Apogee Duet.

http://bit.ly/9bG1Jm

gtodd876 wrote:Hot plugging is supported by the Apogee Duet.

http://bit.ly/9bG1Jm

it was supposed to be supported by the FW410 as well until they realised and started giving warnings

I'd be interested to see if there is a legal thing somewhere in the agreement saying they are not responsible.....

or maybe there is something in the design that is different.... I wont be taking the risk though

firewire is hot plug able all the way, if not (if you damage something) something with the device is wrong.