Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bartend7 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:44 pm

Thanks for the tips. This works great for tempo to move in increments of one. I do like how absolute value the tempo raises like holding down the arrow key as opposed to tapping it. I'm still experimenting with a few more settings, but its more about figuring out the softstep software better. your tips have been a great help in getting me going in the right direction. Your text rocks my friend. I've got alot of things going already. Thank you again

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bartend7 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:50 pm

Yes, the softstep accepts those negative numbers so i'm able to use rel2comp ccs when set up this way. This was a huge help. I'm now using rel where i can, except doesnt seem possible with their navigation pad so those are absolute (standalone mode).

is there a way to add controls.. i have changed the channel and a few ccs. and midi numbers successfully but would like to add a crossfader if possible?

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:36 am

You mean assigning the nav pad of the softstep to the crossfader? Hm, according to the documentation – at least in Standalone mode – each nav pad sends its own CC. With this, it is not possible to map to the crossfader directly. Have you thought about using one pad for the crossfader? With its "X Live" or "X Latch" source it seems to be made for this.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bartend7 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:38 pm

Sorry that wasnt too clear. I currently midi map an x increment button and use that as a crossfader. I was just wondering if it was possible to add to the midi script so it would work with every set i open up.
I basically have 2 scenes now on the softstep controlling alot of functions i used to midi map so i'm looking forward to the increased workflow.

The only thing i would like to improve upon is track selection. I use a few different track groups in my set. It would be nice if when a group track is closed, track selection would go onto the next track. Right now when a group is closed the track selection will go through the tracks inside the group. Basically, I dont need to access those tracks unless the group is open. I would like track selection to work more like the arrow keys in this sense.

I basically have 2 scenes now on the softstep controlling alot of functions i used to midi map so i'm looking forward to the increased workflow. :D

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:27 pm

does anyone else have the problem of using fire selected scene where, when you do it (using the STC key or midi map) that it loops only based on the global quantize setting.

For example, I have a sixteen bar loops in the first scene and when I do fire selected scene, it only plays one bar of the clip. But if I manually fire the selected scene (clicking on the arrow on the scene) it plays the whole sixteen bar clip.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:04 pm

Hmmmm. Still researching. So frustrating.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:38 pm

@bigmonster7: hm, that sounds really strange (and frustrating) – it works for me on 8.2.2. Which version are you running? When you fire the scene via STC, does it loop the clip or does it stop after your global quantize setting? I first thought this might be due to the clip’s follow action, but that does not explain why it works when using the mouse. The thing is, STC just uses a plain direct API function to fire the selected scene, so it should not do anything different than what the mouse does when clicking the scene’s play button … Maybe you can share your Set a.k.a. Live-file?

@bartend7: I am looking into adding crossfader control as well as track assignment to STC.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:10 pm

wiffbi wrote:@bigmonster7: hm, that sounds really strange (and frustrating) – it works for me on 8.2.2. Which version are you running? When you fire the scene via STC, does it loop the clip or does it stop after your global quantize setting? I first thought this might be due to the clip’s follow action, but that does not explain why it works when using the mouse. The thing is, STC just uses a plain direct API function to fire the selected scene, so it should not do anything different than what the mouse does when clicking the scene’s play button … Maybe you can share your Set a.k.a. Live-file?

@bartend7: I am looking into adding crossfader control as well as track assignment to STC.
I'm on 8.2.1. Maybe that is the issue. Via STC, when utilizing fire any kind of scene (current, next, previous) it will only play the loop based on the global quant setting. So for a 16 bar loop, via STC, if I do fire selected scene (and I just tested this, and same thing happens with fire selected clip slot) it only plays the length quantized (i.e. only 1 bar of 16 bar loop plays.) It continues to loop, but only that first bar loops. I can definitely provide the live file I am using. What would be the best way for me to get that too you? Email? board?

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:06 pm

hmmm. I just opened a different live set. When I bring over the same clips from the other set, issue still happens. But it doesn;t with different clips.

I"m going to do another recording test. Right now, my setup is one midi pad set to record and move down to the next clip slot (which waits for another pad 1 press to enable recording again)

I also have auto arm toggle when track selected turned on.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:28 am

@bartend7: I am interested to read about your findings, that causes this strange behaviour regarding firing the scene.

Regarding folded tracks: I will look into this. I already spotted the needed API to get this working.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:20 am

Hi,

thanks for all the great input! I have updated STC:

- added crossfader assignment (per track) and crossfader control (master track)
- added cue volume control
- added support for group tracks (fold/unfold as well as navigation in Session view with folded tracks)

Download and documentation as usual on http://stc.wiffbi.com

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bartend7 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:32 am

your fast!!!!
Group track support great. thanks for crossfader too.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by Todd OMG » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:41 am

I would be willing to pay money for this if it was available on Windows 7.

All I want is Shift + S, M and R to Solo, Mute, and Arm the currently selected track (just like Pro Tools!) A shortcut to fold/unfold automation lanes would be icing, but I'd pay for the first three alone.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:40 am

Hi Todd OMG, I am looking into fold/unfold automation lanes. According to the docs should be possible.
Regarding Windows support: I found a tool called "MIDI-OX" which has VB-Scripting support. Someone called "Mr-Yellow" has written a keystroke-to-MIDI app with it:

On the homepage http://www.midiox.com/ look for "VB6 MIDI Keys Sample" – I will fire up VirtualBox when I have time to check this out. It might work – although AFAIK these shortcuts work globally, so even when Live is not front-most – if that is the case, using only "Shift" as a modifier might not be the best option (anywhere you want to type a capital "S" won’t work anymore). Maybe the "Windows-key" can be used – as far as I can remember this had not much functionality except Windows-E and Windows-D, so might be a better option.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:11 am

I added a toggle to fold/unfold the automation lane in Arrangement of the selected track.

@Todd OMG: I had a look at this midi-ox thing and honestly, I seem to be to dumb to use it. I do get the default keyboard shortcuts of that "VB6 MIDI Keys Sample" to work, but I could not add my own keyboard shortcuts nor really monitor what MIDI data is sent out by this script (it just allows to configure numbers, so I guess that is note numbers). I also looked at the sources, but VB is simply not my type of programming language. Sorry to disappoint you, but this does not seem like a working solution …

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