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Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:28 pm
by H20nly
Tarekith wrote:The other thread wasn't quite right. You can change the resolution to mimic non retina resolutions, but scales the graphics when you do so. So you might be able to get rid of the fuzziness people see here, but at the expense of all the graphics being twice as big, including your mouse pointer.
:x lame.

sorry.

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:05 am
by halblaine
I remember reading about another scaling solution though... rendering everything at a higher resolution or something, which causes the vector graphics to look good?

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:51 am
by A Few Williams
There is an application in the Apple Store called 'Resolution Tab' (https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/resolut ... 1595?mt=12), which allows you to double the native resolution on a Retina Macbook - you turn that on, then in Live's options you set the 'Scale' setting to 200%. This gives you a beautiful sharp display of Live, but all plugin windows are half as big as they should be - i.e. impossible to see, and the mouse pointer is half the size and moves half as quickly.

I've heard of some people working like this but personally I didn't find it workable. YMMV.

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:35 pm
by loydb
Tarekith wrote:The other thread wasn't quite right. You can change the resolution to mimic non retina resolutions, but scales the graphics when you do so. So you might be able to get rid of the fuzziness people see here, but at the expense of all the graphics being twice as big, including your mouse pointer.
Exactly. NI has this exact same problem, and seems to give about as much of a damn as Ableton does when it comes to fixing it...

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:29 am
by halblaine
Has there been any official word on this?

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:28 am
by HamHat
I can't remember the last time I've read an official post on this forum.

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:40 am
by H20nly
HamHat wrote:I can't remember the last time I've read an official post on this forum.
there's one here from a couple of days ago: viewtopic.php?f=40&t=200446&start=45

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:17 am
by HamHat
Don't know if I would call that an official post, looked like a forum moderator.

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:32 am
by alexmilano
+1!!! I Hope u release it soon... Very soon...

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:31 pm
by verstaerker
and another update without retina support :?

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:42 pm
by fargo100
verstaerker wrote:and another update without retina support :?
I've given up waiting... :roll:

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:09 pm
by loydb
I've opened up this same conversation with the guys at ZBrush. What a difference from Ableton. While nobody is promising anything, I've been in regular email contact with two of the ZBrush devs and they've started active discussions around the re-scaling process with the team.

Ableton has ignored this (including support tickets) for almost two years now...

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:37 pm
by ferdicoucou
+1! Do it!

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:03 am
by H20nly
loydb wrote:I've opened up this same conversation with the guys at ZBrush. What a difference from Ableton. While nobody is promising anything, I've been in regular email contact with two of the ZBrush devs and they've started active discussions around the re-scaling process with the team.

Ableton has ignored this (including support tickets) for almost two years now...
did they say anything in terms of how hard it is to implement... like what the stumbling blocks may be or anything that would indicate what, if anything, would hold up the release?

Re: Update LIVE 9 for RETINA !!!

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:05 pm
by loydb
Who? Ableton? They didn't say shit.

The ZBrush guy acknowledged that there would be some tricky bits, and that it would probably be rolled out in a version upgrade rather than a point release. Honestly, even if they never do it, at least they had the courtesy to talk to a long-time customer (and to pass me on to actual devs, not just some dude making minimum wage cutting and pasting replies into support tickets...).

edit: By the way, do any of you testers know if Bitwig supports Retina? I posted a question on their FB page, but no reply.