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Funk N. Furter wrote:http://www.marxism.org.uk/pack/dialetics.html

FnF, I know what dialectics is. I just though it had a double meaning in english too, like in italian...

Well obviously you've never studied Greek philosophy. In fact, the entire Wikipedia page on the subject only mentions Marx once. Revealed your ignorance is.

Here comes the expert

somehow I think this thread consists largely of the same person talking to themselves via alter ego's and personalities...
And I like it!

In my opinion this thread is embarassing and the thread starter swiss...

aisling wrote: somehow I think this thread consists largely of the same person talking to themselves via alter ego's and personalities...
And I like it!

it's how the NSA computers calibrate themselves while they are waiting for potential terrorists to stumble by and reveal all their subversive intentions.

myrnova wrote:You keep on changing the subject YOU claimed my opinions about american citizens are "offensive" and "racist". You still haven't answered. So, again: WHY you think claiming "for me the vast majority of american people are brainwashed by war propaganda" is supposed to be "offensive and racist toward american people"? And why, on the contrary, you accept the historical concept of "german people brainwashed under the nazi regime"?

What is the difference? You think the U.S. are "the land of freedom and democracy"?

no myrnova, I'm very definitely not changing the subject, this IS the subject. If you actually think about it for more than the few seconds it takes you to press the reply button then you are implying that because you feel the US to be a criminal republic then you can say whatever you like to Americans in any context whenever you encounter them. Any time I challenge you for saying "dumb yankees" or anything like that, which can definitely be considered a racist derogatory term specifically intended to insult people, then you start listing figures and crimes you attribute to the US 'criminal republic'. That means you are using it to justify what you said.

I am saying by that logic people could call you a 'dumb wop' because of the catholic church pedophiles or something equally as stupid.

You are very ignorant about the term "yankee". In every country (maybe not in Australia?), "yankee" stands for "criminal USA". Seems you don't even know that.

You are such ignorant that would call "racist" a term used by pacifists, anarchists, activists, left organisations, antifascist organisations and free people.

"Yankee" means "U.S. criminals". Infact they are. U.S. is the worst and more evil dangerous war criminal organisation in human history. Ever. Maybe, rather than watching stupid american movies, read the news, sometimes, and look "what's happening in the world"...



... or maybe you think all the millions people screaming "yankee go home" around the world are "haters" and such dumb infantile bullshit?!

Saint Myrnova saves another soul

myrnova wrote: U.S. is the worst and more evil dangerous war criminal organisation in human history. Ever.

Not even close. The government here is filled with imperialists and has been for a long time, but in no way is the USA the worst.
Nazi Germany, Stalins USSR, Mao at his worst, Italy under the fascists, Belgium in the Congo, England in Ireland, India, what they did during the Boar War, South Africa, this list goes on and on. The world is filled with criminal acts of war and economic parasitism.

There's a huge gap between pointing out what the USA does that's awful, and flat out exaggeration, you're on the exaggeration side of that gap.

anyway myrnova, the picture says "kee go home"

I think you posted a picture from the kee protest.

Machinesworking wrote:

myrnova wrote: U.S. is the worst and more evil dangerous war criminal organisation in human history. Ever.

Not even close. The government here is filled with imperialists and has been for a long time, but in no way is the USA the worst.
Nazi Germany, Stalins USSR, Mao at his worst, Italy under the fascists, Belgium in the Congo, England in Ireland, India, what they did during the Boar War, South Africa, this list goes on and on. The world is filled with criminal acts of war and economic parasitism.

There's a huge gap between pointing out what the USA does that's awful, and flat out exaggeration, you're on the exaggeration side of that gap.

How naive you are about the U.S.

Funk N. Furter wrote:

myrnova wrote:You are very ignorant about the term "yankee". In every country (maybe not in Australia?), "yankee" stands for "criminal USA". Seems you don't even know that.

Well I know everything and I didn't know it. If I wanted to talk about the subject I would use terms like US imperialism, US capitalism, the US administration, the US elite, the US government, the Obama administration, the US ruling class, the US capitalist class, the American bourgeoisie and so on. These are all terms used by socialists on a regular basis to communicate with the people of the world in ways that are clear.

AGAIN: "yankee" means U.S. criminals. That's what they are. You are english, so maybe "yankee" for you can have other meanings, like "yokel", "rural" or such. I don't know, and I don't care too much, indeed. In the rest of the world the word "yankee" is like "nazi". When we scream "yankee go home" it is like "nazi fuck off": it has nothing to do with "german people". It is about war and crimes against humanity: the ones commited by the U.S. war criminals.