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Hi from Turkey,

I'm looking for new soundcard but i'm using XP X64.So i need the new soundcard with XP 64 bit drivers.PLease advice to me.Thanks a lot.


1) Ableton Live CPU Meter = %37-38
2) Laptop/Desktop = DESKTOP PC
3) Operating System = XP X64 SP2
4) Ableton Live version = 7
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed = INTEL C2D/E6700/2.66 GHz.
6) Amount of Ram = 4 GB.
7) Soundcard = M-AUDIO DELTA AUDIOPHILE 2496PCI beta
Hard Disk Drive Speed = 7200 RPM/SATA2
9) Number of playback tracks = 8 TRACKS

peeddrroo wrote:

Machinate wrote:

LeoMANXVII wrote: would the latest version really make a difference?

Would there be a latest version if it didn't?

well, if they didn't state "performance improvements" in the list of fixes, i wouldn't expect any... errr.... performance improvement.


to OP: i think the Turion might be the cause for your bad performance. it's kind of a low end processor.

yeah i just don't see where that list of fixes are?

anyways, how much better would an interl core 2 duo be in compared to the amd turion.. the only difference i see in the processors is the amount of cache. intel has a lot more compared to the my AMD

LeoMANXVII wrote:

peeddrroo wrote:

Machinate wrote: Would there be a latest version if it didn't?

well, if they didn't state "performance improvements" in the list of fixes, i wouldn't expect any... errr.... performance improvement.


to OP: i think the Turion might be the cause for your bad performance. it's kind of a low end processor.

yeah i just don't see where that list of fixes are?

anyways, how much better would an interl core 2 duo be in compared to the amd turion.. the only difference i see in the processors is the amount of cache. intel has a lot more compared to the my AMD

ok, maybe i'm wrong, but i thought the Turion was the equivalent of the Centrino, and not as fast as an Athlon.
does yours have a double core? that makes A LOT of difference.

about the list of fixes, you can probably find it by searching the bugs and problems forum, but i'm pretty sure upgrading to 6.0.10 won't improve your performance, or very slightly.

no not quite sure what the turion is equivalent too.

i am almost positive it does not have dual core. i would love to test out a new processor.. though i would probably need a whole new notebook since replacing processors on laptops can be a pain

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 40
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Self Built Desktop
3) Operating System? Windows XP SP2
4) Ableton Live version? 6.07
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core 2 Duo 2.67ghz
6) Amount of Ram? 2gb (PC6400 DDR2)
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? MOTU Ultralite
8] Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? 7200rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8

Sorry, I think this test is seriously flawed, because it only lists Live's CPU meter reading, which is useless compared to the real CPU load.

Here is an example:

I am currently comparing Windows Vista versus XP performance. Runnin Tarekith' Performance Test on the same hardware leads to the following results when run through my M-Audio Audiophile 2496 at 512 samples buffer.

Live CPU Meter: XP = 52%, Vista = 53%
Task-Manager CPU load: XP = 55%, Vista = 77%

As you can see Live's CPU meter is worth *peep*!

PS: At the moment it looks like the bad Vista performance of Live is either a bug of Live or a bug of the graphic subsystem. According to what I have found out so far the increased CPU use of Live under Vista is purely related to GUI drawing. The real performance hit of Vista vs XP is only about 2% on my system! I'm still investigating this at the moment.

Ok, I kind of found the circumstance under which Live's CPU load increases dramatically under Windows Vista and wrote a bug report about that here:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81821

This only happens when using "Basic Desktop" (aka Classic Desktop). Here are my comparison measurements of Tarekith test on my computer.

Windows XP
Live's meter: 52%
Task-Manager: 55%, 51% when running in background

Windows Vista Basic Desktop (NO Aero)
Live's meter: 53%
Task-Manager: 77%, 52% when running in background after resolution change

Windows Vista Aero Desktop
Live's meter: 54%
Task-Manager: 57%

if i were to upgrade my amd turion mk-36 on my gateway laptop? am i ok to look at normal desktop amd processors? i'll make sure the speed is the same as my turion (2ghz) but i want an athlon which has dual core.. can anyone confirm is this is possible for me to do? (uprade)

Hey guys, keep discussions to the thread linked below please, this thread is supposed to be just listing stats:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... erformance

Nightrider wrote:1) Ableton Live CPU Meter : 47%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Macbook Pro
3) Operating System? OS X Leopard 10.5.1
4) Ableton Live version? 7.01
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2.6ghz Duo
6) Amount of Ram? 4Gb
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? Motu Ultralite
Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? 200Gb 7200rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8

Just had the chance to try it with 2GB of ram instead of 4GB (2x1gb sticks as my house mate was upgrading his Macbook)

It was still rock solid at 47% cpu. So no complaints here!!

Just got my new laptop up and running and am very relieved to report significantly improved performance...

BEFORE
=====
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 77%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Sony Vaio Laptop
3) Operating System? XP Home SP2
4) Ableton Live version? 7.01
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Pentium, 1.73GHz
6) Amount of Ram? 1GB
7) Soundcard ? M-Audio Firewire Audiophile
Hard Disk Drive Speed? don't know
9) Number of playback tracks? 2

AFTER
====
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 64-71%
2) Laptop/Desktop? HP laptop
3) Operating System? Vista
4) Ableton Live version? 7.01
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core Duo T7500 2.2GHz
6) Amount of Ram? 2GB
7) Soundcard ? M-Audio Firewire Audiophile
Hard Disk Drive Speed? 5400rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8

Phew!

mr lovely wrote:Just got my new laptop up and running and am very relieved to report significantly improved performance...

BEFORE
=====
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 77%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Sony Vaio Laptop
3) Operating System? XP Home SP2
4) Ableton Live version? 7.01
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Pentium, 1.73GHz
6) Amount of Ram? 1GB
7) Soundcard ? M-Audio Firewire Audiophile
Hard Disk Drive Speed? don't know
9) Number of playback tracks? 2

AFTER
====
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 64-71%
2) Laptop/Desktop? HP laptop
3) Operating System? Vista
4) Ableton Live version? 7.01
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core Duo T7500 2.2GHz
6) Amount of Ram? 2GB
7) Soundcard ? M-Audio Firewire Audiophile
Hard Disk Drive Speed? 5400rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8

Phew!

damn, i bet if you switch to xp pro + tweaks /sp3 you can be under 65%
nice upgrade tho

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 54%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Apple MacBook Pro 2.4ghz
3) Operating System? OSX 10.4.11
4) Ableton Live version? 6
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Dual Core 2.4ghz
6) Amount of Ram? 2GB
7) Soundcard CoreAudio
Hard Disk Drive Speed 5400?
9) Number of playback tracks 8

Have been on about the bad performance of my MBP in another thread. I have just installed Tiger from Leopard as I am using a Line 6 POD XT Live and the drivers are only beta for leopard. If I use the POD XT as the output device I get loads of drops but using the onboard card I can play all 8 tracks fine at a good CPU level.

This suggests it's actually my setup with the Line 6 POD that's causing the drops, think I am going to have to look at my set up again..

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter % 47%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Asus c90 laptop
3) Operating System? xp
4) Ableton Live version? 6
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core Duo E6600 2.4GHz
(not Overclocked)
6) Amount of Ram? 2GB
7) Soundcard ? internal
Cool Hard Disk Drive Speed? 5400rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8

Macbook Pro 15" LED Santa Rosa

Leopard

1. 66% default / 46% running Coolbook*
2. Macbook Pro 15" LED Santa Rosa
3. OSX 10.5.1
4. Live 6.0.10
5. Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
6. 4GB
7. Internal soundcard
8. 7200rpm
9. 8 tracks
- 50% running M-Audio NRV-10 with or without Coolbook and using Tiger drivers

Bootcamp

1. 48%
2. Macbook Pro 15" LED Santa Rosa
3. Windows XP SP2
4. Live 6.0.10
5. Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
6. 4GB
7. Internal soundcard
8. 7200rpm
9. 8 tracks
- 46% running M-Audio NRV-10

* Under OSX without Coolbook installed while using the internal soundcard, glitching happens in the audio stream. With Coolbook, audio plays smoothly.

Coolbook setting
1600 Mhz 0.85v
2400 Mhz 1.05v
Throttling Medium
Temp limit None