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Not a rare breed mate, but a studio engineer who bothered to learn more than Pro Tools and Logic, I'm certified in both of those for working purposes, although this in itself doesn't mean that much but 8 years using those 2 systems at work plus Live and Cubase (which I was using since the Atari ST days) at home adds up to a decent knowledge of those systems) and yes, over the course of several years spent more time tweaking and twiddling sh*t and getting geeky with software for others and self than enjoying making his own music, that part is correct ! Then again, recording and engineering is a passion as valid as being a musician or a DJ.

I apologize if I seem like I was shouting off the lip but the magazine article (which maybe took things out of context, or edited your comments, or whatever) does SEEM to make a bold claim that you regard Live as basically fine for Live use or composition, but isn't serious enough to mix down with - I don't know if this is what you intended, but this is how it reads to some people. Maybe you can clarify this to pre-empt others making generalizations or misinformation ?

I get where you're coming from re the Nuendo mixer and some of the plugins, I really do - However, Live is fine for mixing down, the quality of the mix comes from the skill of the operator regardless of which system you use. That one system gets you from A to B quicker I get, this is not the same though as suggesting system A is good, system B is not - which some people will interpret as the message. Maybe you can set us straight?

leedsquietman wrote: the quality of the mix comes from the skill of the operator regardless of which system you use. That one system gets you from A to B quicker I get, this is not the same though as suggesting system A is good, system B is not - which some people will interpret as the message. Maybe you can set us straight?

so you get an as good sounding mix out of a behringer desk than when using a neve console?
wow..you must be realy very skilled...

3phase wrote:

leedsquietman wrote: the quality of the mix comes from the skill of the operator regardless of which system you use. That one system gets you from A to B quicker I get, this is not the same though as suggesting system A is good, system B is not - which some people will interpret as the message. Maybe you can set us straight?

so you get an as good sounding mix out of a behringer desk than when using a neve console?
wow..you must be realy very skilled...

leeds, if you reply to this siht I'll fly my ass to Canadia to kick your ass.

what is the sound of one retard arguing?

come on guys..its pretty clear who are the retards here.. Mr 20000 forum posts...

but i can answer for him.. its pretty easy.. he will say tha you cant compare such things because its analoge..

what implies that all digital desks sound the same oh no.. all daw´s sound the same ..

interesting.. all digital desks dont sound the same but all daw´s do?

so you can spend 1 billion on a digital ssl console and it will sound the same tan your 400 bucks daw?

and a soundblaster card is good enough anyway as an converter and everything alse are the audio myth that keep the industry going...

something like that what makes total sense..

nigel1 wrote:

leedsquietman wrote:He's used Nuendo/Cubase for ages and obviously doesn't know how to use Live to it's full functionality to make a statement like that.

I wouldn't be so bold to go out on a limb and make a statement like that. I actually do have a grasp at it's full functionality.

Gormless regurgitation aka bullshitting is his forte. Which might go someway to explaining his unemployed status.

leedsquietman wrote:Not a rare breed mate, but an unemployed...

fixed for accuracy

leedsquietman wrote: I apologize if I seem like I was shouting off the lip but the magazine article (which maybe took things out of context, or edited your comments, or whatever) does SEEM to make a bold claim that you regard Live as basically fine for Live use or composition, but isn't serious enough to mix down with - I don't know if this is what you intended, but this is how it reads to some people. Maybe you can clarify this to pre-empt others making generalizations or misinformation ?

hoho! - isn't it YOU who should have clarified from the beginning that you were regurgitating shit you picked up from a magazine? lol. And now asking him to clarify in order to pre-empt other shitehawks from talking out of their ass ? c'est magnifique! bravo!

leedsquietman wrote:Maybe you can set me straight?

I believe he already has. But sadly that won't stop you from bullshitting again in the future.

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nigel1 wrote:

William wrote:I read a post by Dennis Ferrer the other day where he suggests Ableton Live for beginners. He uses Nuendo for his own productions though b/c he doesn't think Live sounds that good..

I've never said that. I've actually said I love live. LOL ...only issue i have is with "my" perceived evaluation and my peers supposedly mysterious malady because "we don't know what we're talking about because the two audio files null" when it comes to live's sound engine. Oh and Eucon plus sysex support.

Dennis

I am with you on the lack of eucon support fella. Tis a big gap IMO.

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dum:

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and every other dog-sniffing-crotch pic google can provide

^ yeah, thats me... I love that blue collar. I wear it whenever I watch little bitch chiuauas like yourself stick their heads up big dog's asses.




finish this chicken wing for me. maybe if you weren't so hungry you wouldn't be so hostile.






sorry, almost crushed ya. forgot about how small and fragile you really are.

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Ok...No contest.
you are definitely the undisputed champion of playing pretend on the internets.

dum

I was asking Mr. Ferrer for his response in a respectful way. I don't believe you are actually Mr. Ferrer, nor someone associated with him to speak on his behalf.

You're incapable of being respectful with your insults and inflammatory behaviour, you find it impossible to restrain yourself from personal insults, attacks and flaming.

Perhaps one day you'll grow up and learn how to express yourself with respectability and not throw your toys out of the pram at anything you disagree with and be a troll.

3Phase can at least argue his points without having to post google pics, edit quotations and call people insulting names (if they didn't insult him first at least). Maybe you can learn a lesson or two with him.


BTW - Tone - I won't be answering that question, that argument even crosses the line for me

More delusional posts...

I didn't use google pics or insults etc to argue a point.

I didn't attempt to speak on Mr F's behalf and Mr F is free to answer you if Mr F feels you're worth the time =) Hopefully he has more sense than to address someone who is so accustomed to talking out of his anus.

I did, however, comment on your response to Mr F - which was laughable


His comments on Mr F's production are another textbook case of leeds talking shit about something and it turns out he's repeating shit he picked up elsewhere. He's an echo-chamber of old or incorrect info.