Boston

[SuburbanThug]

My take on it is this - we've ascended to the top of Maslow's Hierarcy of Needs and have everything we want and need for the most part. What that has done is turn us into a bunch of "feel good" narcissistic hedonistic complainers and whiney-ass pussies. Perhaps if and when the day ever comes when we have to once again live hand-to-mouth where day by day, the operative task is to seek meat, gather berries, and worry about whether our shelter will withstand the next big blow. Only then, when we're squatting near a steaming deuce behind a rock and wiping our asses with hickory leaves will we appreciate how nice that Charmin was. That day may be hear sooner than you'd imagine, given our compulsive tendencies towards nihlism. Society is well on it's way there.

This is what I don't get. Just because you are living the good life doesn't mean that everybody else is (or even close to everybody.) There are plenty of people living hand to mouth or the modern equivalent thereof and it is often off the backs of those very people that some of us get to live the ascended life you're talking about. It also doesn't stand to reason that just because one leads the "ascended" life that one can't care about what happens to other people. What has an affect on other people has an affect on you.

The longer we spend our days content to profit off the suffering of other people the closer we come to creating our own end. In case you don't understand where terrorism comes from let me spell it out for you. Some folks don't appreciate imperialism and when they don't have a constructive way to voice their opinions (like you do) they turn to violence in order to make themselves heard. So go ahead and keep ignoring the voices of the rest of the world and keep living your "ascended" life while scoffing at the "whiners" and let's see how long we can ride this gravy train before somebody derails it.

@ knotkranky - well played.

How? He made no contribution other than a snarky remark. "Bad shit is just normal and we still progress." Congratulations you graduated high school. This type of "discourse" is just the same old shit from conservatives. Instead of being analytical or trying to be correct let's just try to make the other guy look like an ass. Because the right wing is more concerned with domination rather than being correct.

[H20nly]

^ um... he pointed out that the situation (and bemoaning) is fundamentally the same and that only the names and dates have changed... technology is a culprit and a means but the problems we have with our government are not so different. i realize that you are eager to point out that they are not so the same either. while i generally agree with your stance, and even the stance of the Italian poster who is spitting on the USA via text, it doesn't change the fact that what we want and what we have are very different... i, for example, do not want to pay a former Senator a paycheck for life and pay his healthcare for the same amount of time... while this senator stands up and tells us "Obama care is bad MKay" and other useless gyrations that all distract from the fact that he has what most of us want... and are paying the bill for.

to elaborate further; i thought the words in your post that knotkranky changed were quite cleverly edited, but what can i say... at this point i've been reading his posts for several years and happen to be a fan of his online sense of humor.
*shrugs*

i think you're missing the point that we ultimately agree with you, but reality is a motherfucker.

[SuburbanThug]

Thanks for clarifying.

Reality can be pretty harsh and I do see the some of the merit in telling people to suck it up and stop being "pussies" but I often see this as our (normal ass people's) way of saying, "There ain't shit I can do about this so fuck it." Which is a way of absolving ourselves of responsibility for what our government does. Which I get because it's hard enough to look out for yourself sometimes (wait, I thought we ascended basic human needs.)

[delicioso]

Something's fishy about the alleged car victim story: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/2104145/

There's been so many contradicting stories that were floating around in the media like how the surviving suspect drove over his brother which now turns out not to be the case.

[H20nly]

Reality can be pretty harsh and I do see the some of the merit in telling people to suck it up and stop being "pussies" but I often see this as our (normal ass people's) way of saying, "There ain't shit I can do about this so fuck it." Which is a way of absolving ourselves of responsibility for what our government does.

agreed.

apathy, complacence, and indifference are, in a sense, tools that people have used for millennia though... i'm sure those that built the pyramids wished that things were different too. at some point you have to be grateful for what you have and simply remain hopeful for the best.

[delicioso]

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

http://rt.com/op-edge/boston-bombers-ts ... thers-172/

[knotkranky]

You must be young or wealthy, I don't know. When predatory lending in the 1890's led to the economy crash in the early 1900's pretty much everything swell about this country began to suddenly die. By gosh, by the mid-1890's culture had gone out the window... again. A band like John Philip Souza will never again top the charts. Small business... basically dead. Most of the Bill of Rights... dead. New York made dancing illegal. In the last 13 years the taxpayer has bailed out multiple banks and corporations that spend most of their time trying to get one over on every poor sucker that passes by. I could go on. The 1890's ruled, but OMG we didn't have indoor toilets

SO perhaps you can enlighten us about how you feel things have improved socially and economically in the past 15 years. Are is there not enough fodder for a snarky retort in this post?

Cheers to H20nly

Ok, I'm talking about humanity as a whole. Not our own generational window in time. Of course you're going point out the worst of it in your generation as your reference point. Every generation thinks' theirs' is the toughest. "Why in my day we had to.....bla bla. Back to the point; @myrnova was ranting about all the senseless killing going on, many young people feel that their time is the worse because their experience is pretty new and in HD. Not to mention that media drops it all in our laps in realtime and then loops it all month! But i find most people mistake that for a realistic view of the world. And it's where most people who soak-up tabloid styled info (most of it), argue from. What myrnova was onto I felt had no value for others except myrnova. But it's not his fault, it's because the important information, and the authority to have it believed, has dried up. I digressed a bit but basically it's like this, older dude thinks younger dude said some young shit, and pointed it out.

[delicioso]

http://rt.com/op-edge/boston-suspect-ru ... chnya-154/

http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2013 ... 45796.html

http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48 ... ya-was-the

[SuburbanThug]

http://politicker.com/2013/04/bloomberg ... to-change/

“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry,” Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. “But we live in a complex word where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”
Mayor Bloomberg of New York City on post-Boston bombing interpretation of the Constitution of the U.S.

[myrnova]

http://politicker.com/2013/04/bloomberg ... to-change/

“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry,” Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. “But we live in a complex word where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”
Mayor Bloomberg of New York City on post-Boston bombing interpretation of the Constitution of the U.S.

Here we’re going to to have to live with reasonable levels of security,” he said, pointing to the use of magnetometers to catch weapons in city schools.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTfOB_TBBew

[Forge.]

"The drone strike and its impact tore my heart, much as the tragic bombings in Boston last week tore your hearts and also mine," Yemeni writer Farea Al-Muslimi said. “What radicals had previously failed to achieve in my village… one drone strike accomplished in an instant: There is now an intense anger and growing hatred of America.”

This is what they call Blowback. How Ironic if Nobel peace prize winning Obama ends up inspiring more terrorists than GWB. Remember, he personally gets involved in the drone attacks.

http://rt.com/usa/us-drone-senate-yemen-306/

[myrnova]

"After the 9/11 terror attack, the US began to launch drones from bases in Pakistan and Uzbekistan for combat missions inside Afghanistan. More than a decade later, after killing almost 5,000 people – many of whom are believed to civilians, including women and children – Washington has expanded the use of the remotely controlled aircraft into Yemen, Somalia and especially Pakistan".

[RonaldDumsfeld]

Boston

Had it coming. Ironically enough.

For over 20 years the local Plastic Paddys had been donating to the IRA whilst in their cups. Other home grown 'terrorists' turned the cash into guns and explosives and exported said shit Irewards. The politicians looked the other way in fear of the polls and the law enforcement didn't so much not interfere as actively contribute (allegedl).

You reap what you sow.

[H20nly]

so, if i sow blown up children and dismemberment seeds that's what i'll reap. check.

i'm gonna sick with tomatoes and serrano peppers, does that mean i'm free from this burden?

[delicioso]

New Hampshire State Rep. Stella Tremblay says “The Boston Marathon attack was a "Top Down, Bottom Up" operation carried out by "Black Ops": http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl ... /130429720